No BS Newshour Episode #402
One Down, One to Go
BREAKING: Traci Kornak, the former treasurer of the Michigan Democrat Party, member of Dana Nessel’s Attorney General transition team, and a wine buddy to Democrats like Governor Gretchen Whitmer, has been charged with multiple felonies for abusing and stealing from a brain-damaged elderly woman, the late Rose Burd.
Kornak was charged with two counts of embezzlement of a vulnerable adult and one count of false pretenses.
→ AG Nessel, had every opportunity to stop Kornak. Instead, she aided and abetted the bilking and abuse of the old woman.
Nessel, quite likely, will face impeachment charges.
New legislation to protect the elderly is making its way through Capitol Hill.
Jay DeBoyer, Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, joins us.
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TRANSCRIPT:
The House Oversight Committee met this week. It was snowing. It was cold.
The legislature wasn’t even in session, but they decided this was important enough. I’m bringing it to you. You can let the facts of this information that’s provided to you make that determination.
But here’s what I can tell you. Based on my reading of this information from beginning to end, all aspects of it, not only this committee information, the December 16th committee information, the attorney general’s office is one of two things. It is either wholly incompetent or it is corrupt.
It is one or the other. And frankly, for the sake of Ms. Bird, I will say it absolutely matters. But the reality is it doesn’t matter because they’re both horribly bad.
Do we do our intro now or do we introduce? Let’s do it and leave all this in. Don’t cut it out. Live from downtown Detroit, it’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man, Charlene LeDuc and Jared Nubes.
I want to introduce in today the chairman of the Michigan House of Representatives Oversight Committee, Jay DeBoer. How are you, Jay? I’m good, Charlie. How are you? Good.
Thanks for doing this. I know you were coming down and you got caught in the whiteout. You know, anyway, let me do this, Jay.
Hey, Mark, we got another clip we want to play. Basically, anybody that knows this show knows for the better part of three years, Tracy Kornack, you remember her, the hobnob goblin with the fuchsia coat, can’t find the elevator, ripping off an old lady, ripping her off. Besties, best friends with Dana Nessel, best friends with Gretchen Whitmer.
Nessel opened an investigation. It was no investigation at all. And we have seven, eight agencies that were watching this go on in real time.
The only honest arbiter was Jay. Even yesterday, the Detroit Free Press finally, finally decides they’re going to write a word or two about it in the headline, I paraphrase, GOP ramps up attacks on Dana Nessel. Hey, that’s it.
Ramped up attacks. Play this clip, Mark, about all the allegations and whatnot. Jay was overseeing this committee yesterday.
I will write it in full next week. Jay, I got breaking news for you, bro. After the clip.
Rose also stated that she previously received mail at the facility, but now it goes to Tracy. This was something we identified for you in our last year. For you joining the show for the first time, it’s important to say that Tracy Cornack was the Democratic state treasurer in Michigan.
And in her day job, she’s a slip and fall lawyer and was a conservator of a brain damaged old lady. Roll it. Rose also stated that she previously received mail at the facility, but now it goes to Tracy.
This was something we identified for you in our last hearing as well, that the mail had been redirected. Caregiver states that Rose had been trying to call family members recently, and after a visit from her guardian, Rose’s cell phone went missing. The guardian has told caregivers not to talk about the phone.
There is a large note written in the care log informing them that Rose’s phone is not a priority. If she asks questions about the phone, they are to redirect her and inform her that this is not important. The caregiver even notes that Rose recently had three family members die and she was notified of their passing by the guardian, not them or anyone in her family.
She also notes that Rose’s TV was on a timer where she was only allowed to watch it two hours a day. Rose had a nightlight in her room and staff was instructed that it not be left on overnight despite Rose wanting it to be. Wow.
Caregiver stated that the apartment is pitch black when she leaves it and it is difficult to maneuver without any light. The caregiver reports that Rose was very frustrated because she felt like her guardian was doing things to purposefully agitate her. She said the room lights were on all the time, but recently the guardian had removed all the light bulbs from her apartment stating that they are fluorescent.
She believes that they agitate Rose. The caregiver stated that the guardian had duct taped all the light switches so that they can’t be turned on. What is this? The caregiver continues and states that the caregivers at the facility are given specific instructions from the guardian that they are not to touch anything.
Rosalynn Byrd identifies in this contact that she is being watched by her guardian, Tracy Kornack. Not only does she say that, she shows APS a camera that was above the fridge in her room. She reported another one was in her bedroom.
She was asked how she felt about that and she specifically said she did not like it. She didn’t understand why there was cameras in her home. She also questioned again a past due balance of her rent because at this point when there was cameras in her room, she was also behind on rent even though her conservator was supposed to be taking care of that.
In December 6th of 2024, shortly after that case note and the contact to Kent County was made, they again meet with Rose. They attempt to meet with her at least and at this point, Tracy Kornack is in the room with Rosalynn Byrd. Tracy Kornack is asked to leave and she leaves but she places her phone on the TV tray next to her client’s chair.
The APS investigator notes that the phone was observed to be recording the conversation in the room. What? The recording was stopped due to privacy being requested by Miss Byrd and Miss Byrd reported that she dislikes Miss Kornack and reported that she wants a new guardian. So again, excuse me.
So Miss Kornack attempted to record a private conversation between two individuals that she was not a party in, correct? After being asked to leave by the APS investigator, yes. Which is a crime, correct? Way ahead of you, Mr. Chair. Eavesdropping upon a private conversation is a two-year felony, punishable by a fine of not more than $2,000 or two years or both.
I’m gonna bring in Jay DeBoer. Jay, I first exposed this fraud three years ago. By the grace of God, you get elected to office and you pick it up.
Is this a partisan witch hunt, Jay, or is this about accountability, protecting the seniors? This is the furthest thing from a partisan witch hunt. If this were a Republican attorney general, I would be doing the exact same thing. God bless you.
The facts and the evidence in this case are so overwhelming. They not only completely corroborate the fact that Tracy Kornack was abusing and stealing from a senior who she was supposed to be taking the financial care of, they also point to the fact that because of her relationship with high-ranking elected officials, it appears that the attorney general’s office took a position of there’s nothing to see here. Now, what that means, Charlie, is that this woman for three years continued to be abused, stolen from while, quote-unquote, there was nothing to see here.
There’s multiple agencies now who’ve done their own investigations who’ve all come to the same conclusion that I have come to based on the evidence that’s available, all but the attorney general’s office. And when you hear the defense, when you hear the gaslighting, when you hear the defense by fellow House members that say things like, well, the attorney general’s office didn’t have that information at the time, that’s their damn job, Charlie. Their job is to go find that information.
They’re the leading number one law enforcement agency in the country. In the state of Michigan, in the defenses, they didn’t have the information. I’m sorry.
It infuriates me because this lady was completely taken advantage of and it could have been stopped three, four years ago. I’m going to give you a list of agencies that were investigating this in real time. What you heard on those clips was adult protective services case file in real time.
They were watching this. The old woman wanted, knew it, told them they were aware of it. There’s accounting up the asshole.
By the way, you have these documents. May I have these this week, sir? Uh, yes, we are going to go through these documents, make sure there’s not any, you know, personal data that should be otherwise redacted. We’re not going to hide what it says, but you know, privacy of individuals matters.
We’re going to go through the information and then we’re going to release it to the media. And Charlie, obviously you will be eligible to have that. Okay.
Excellent. Here’s who was looking into the attorney general who made it go away. Michigan state police, Kent County Sheriff’s department, adult protective services of the state, the attorney grievance commission, your house oversight committee, the Allegan County probate court, plant Moran, a worldwide accounting firm, a second accounting firm.
Um, the Detroit news, the Detroit free press, the governor’s office, the Michigan democratic party. All these people were looking into that. Jay, I’ve got some breaking news for you.
First of all, I want to know when the contempt charges come against the attorney general and when the impeachment charges come when, yeah, I can’t tell you when Charlie, um, I can tell you that there’s a standing motion out of our committee, uh, to hold her in contempt, uh, meaning attorney general Nestle, uh, because of her failure to comply with subpoenas. I would say that, um, the criminal aspect of this case is important. I believe, uh, the Kent County prosecutor is actively involved in the criminal aspect of this case.
And I guess I would say that what that will do is that will solidify what we believe to be true, which is that definitely there was a crime. Definitely. There was evidence and the attorney general’s office.
Uh, again, what I said, they’re either wholly incompetent or they’re corrupt. Um, and I think that at that moment is when you could see, um, you know, determinations by the house of how far this is going to get pushed. Okay.
Let me help you out here. I just got a call. The whole show’s blown up.
You can tell them agitated. Okay. Here’s the breaking news, sir.
I just received a call from the Kent County prosecutor. He is leveling felony charges, felony charges, two counts of embezzlement against Ms. Kornak and one of false pretense. The charges are here.
That’s, that’s an emotional statement. You just shared with me, Charlie. Um, my heart’s breaking, dude.
I know, I know what time you put into this. I know what time I put into this is if anybody called me, we got Willie Burton here, former police commissioner of the city of Detroit. Thankfully, God bless his mother.
She’s alive. If he had called me and said this was going on, Willie, Willie, to my last breath, to my last breath, brother, I would try to help your mother. It’s not politics.
They played politics, Jay. I didn’t play anything. I admire you very much.
I’m telling you right now, I didn’t expect the emotion to come at me. That just came at me. Um, because the oversight’s role, uh, is, is to oversee government, right? Oversee the actions of government departments in government.
Um, and as much as I care for and have now to some degree, an emotional attachment to Rose Byrd, um, you know, that’s somewhat a secondary issue to what our role as the oversight committee is. However, I would argue that the actions of the oversight committee at the end of the day are designed to help benefit and protect the people of the state of Michigan of which Ms. Rose Byrd, uh, was one of those people and justice for Rose Byrd. Um, if that’s what we end up getting out of it, I’ll be able to sleep better at night.
Um, wow. Amazing, Charlie. No, sir.
More. It’s behind you. You have the placard, the constitution, the preamble, we, the people, that’s who you represent.
Rose Byrd, 87. God rest her was active in democratic politics. And this is what happened to her from the Democrats.
It’s nothing about politics. They’re sideways. Now they’re sideways.
What we need is a conviction. We need assets sold because Rose Byrd is gone. Her son is alive.
He’s 64. He’s a paranoid schizophrenic. This is, this is money for his end of life care that was allegedly taken.
We need a raft. I heard it yesterday. If you guys go to Michigan house, go to the three bars, click it, house TV, click it.
It’ll say house oversight. I encourage you to watch it. Some good people in there are Democrat, my kind of Democrat kind of Democrat.
I am. He said, we need laws to prevent this. So justice is good.
And then like Senator Ruth Johnson, this is her pet is trying to fix probate. We need legislation. So it never happens again.
Yes. Yes. And I expect you to we are actively in the process of drafting legislation to create better guardrails with conflicts with regard to elected officials.
That’s currently an active thing. Additionally, you’re right. Ruth Johnson’s dealing with some of that.
And I think in light of this case, you’re going to see a broader support of those legislative actions. I think you’re also going to see maybe those bills be tweaked and be made even better than potentially what they’re proposed as right now. Because again, at the end of the day, it is about improving the quality of our government, improving the quality of the service we provide.
And frankly, to your point, Charlie, holding individuals who act nefariously and illegally accountable. Okay, here’s what I want to do, Mark. It’s an excellent moment.
It’s so sad. I want to I want to hear from our sponsors. Because without these people, please patronize these people.
They kept this show going. They kept this story going. They kept Jay going.
Hopefully Rose’s son can keep going. And society moves forward. Ken, I love you, dude.
Thank you for all the hard work. All the hard work. I want to thank the Michigan enjoyer.
I want to thank the Kent County prosecutor. I want to thank everybody who’s trying. I feel like crying, Jay, but not sad.
No, that’s where I’m at. That’s what I said the wave of emotion that hit me when you just said that. I didn’t expect but it’s a it’s a moment of satisfaction to a degree that that I that I didn’t realize was deep down in me on the fight on this.
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Hey, Mark, do you have another clip from the hearing?
I do. Just to get me re-centered. Does it make sense? Do you want to set it up? Well, yeah.
I mean, there’s more allegations of what Kornak did. I don’t know if we want to hear that or do we want to hear why she thought she could get away with it. You run it.
Let’s hear both of them. Let’s hear one. Hear from Jay.
Hear the next. Hear from Jay. It really shows how evil this was.
Okay. It’s to Steve at Adult Protective Services. And it goes in great detail about Tracy Kornak’s verbally inappropriate communication with staff and with Rose.
It says here, it’s been difficult to manage, and I don’t think that Rose deserves to have her phone hidden. Family members, numbers blocked. Being spoken to in a disparaging manner regularly, example, Tracy saying to Rose, so you’re going to be an effing bitch today? Great.
I’m passing along the name of your guardian that is used to working with auto no-fall and traumatic brain injuries. She appears to be threatening Mrs. Bird during that period of time. Jay, go ahead.
Yeah. I think the evidence in this case time and time again has demonstrated that, you know, the Tracy Kornak is not only a criminal, a thief, she’s a sociopath. She punishes Rose Bird.
And I’m going to remind you guys of something that’s very important to your, I think for your listeners to hear, just a simple, for a context. You hear the term guardian being thrown around, uh, in the comments by the adult protective services worker. They’re using guardian as a generic statement because Tracy Kornak was not Rose Bird’s guardian in the legal sense.
She was her conservator and there’s a dramatic difference between, yeah, there’s a dramatic difference between those two things. A conservator, which Tracy Kornak was, their only role is to make sure that their clients’ finances are managed and our, and their bills are paid, period, period. A guardian has a lot more control potentially based on what a court may have granted them.
Control over their daily lives, control over their medical treatments, control over where they live, control over what they do, control all, guardian is very different. So it’s important to know when you hear these things and for the people that may go back and watch our committee, you’re going to hear guardian used because that’s how the social worker referred to Tracy Kornak. However, however, that, that was not in the actual legal sense.
So, so there can be some confusion meaning that, well, people could say, well, if she was the guardian, she has the right to make these decisions. I agree. She wasn’t her guardian.
She was her conservator. So don’t confuse the two. Let’s not also forget here that she had the durable power of attorney.
So she said, well, that’s, that’s our, that’s an arguable position. It’s not even arguable. She is not, she is not, I mean, for two reasons, she represents, yeah, she represents herself as one, but I go ahead and a person who’s incapacitated, which is ruled by the court that Rose was.
That’s why she has a conservator. You can’t sign these documents. By the way, the person who signs over their rights has to want it, has to want it.
Well, we know what Cornette did on the durable power of attorney. When it was signed, the witnesses were Cornette herself, illegal and another person from the nursing home who was blind. So every dollar that moved was fraud.
Every dollar, every fucking dollar. This was brought to the attorney grievance commission. Oh, it’s blowing up now, dude.
It’s blowing up now, but we’re in a nice little cozy place just talking to each other. My bro. I just want to tell you my phone, my phone’s blown up to Charlie.
I got text messages coming in one after another to me. So I want the impeachment bro. We the people demand demand.
You tell Matt Hall, he sits on this. I’m coming for him. This better not be some swamp shit where the Republicans and the Democrats are playing politics.
We, the people want to be protected. And if you can’t protect us, we’ll protect ourselves. And you’re not going to like it.
Was that too much? No, we’ll fix it in post. Okay. Okay.
I want to mention the man’s name, Graham Leach, senior associate counsel in September 29th, 2022, a few months after I dropped the first story on this. A complaint was sent to the attorney grievance commission on Kornak on the insurance fraud on the power of attorney forgery bullshit. They didn’t adjudicate this till 2025.
You notice supposed to take six months, took three fucking years. And they wrote the evidence review did not warrant further action by the commission. They never got ahold of the damn documents.
How, how, how could everybody miss this? How could everybody watch this? Yeah. Oh, by the way, Detroit news just got bought by the free press or USA today, motherfuckers read the writing on a wall. They’re closing you down and you deserve it.
Say something, Jay. Yeah, there’s a lot, there’s a lot here. You know, the, the comments that were made by the, uh, assistant attorney general with regard to the report from the, from adult protective services.
And if you don’t mind, can I just read a quick clip? I don’t know if you may have it there or not, but no, cause you haven’t sent me the documents yet, but yes, by all means. Yeah. But you, but you watched the hearing yesterday.
Yes, I did. The clip on this, uh, you know, the case was reviewed by Amanda, which is an associate attorney general. She reported that because of the sensitivity of the case and the connection that Ms. Kornak has with government officials and the mystery surrounding the last people to blow the whistle on Ms. Kornak, that it was best to wait to see if the accounting comes up with criminal charges rather than filing modification of a guardianship case as there will be more than enough evidence to request a guardian at that time with what is being reported.
Amanda did not feel comfortable, did not feel comfortable with filing in probate. I want to know who those people were that got fired, Charlie. I got fired.
I got fired. She’s saying it. Nurse at home.
Joe got fired. Best care. The people that gave aid to Rose got fired.
I don’t know if anybody in attorney general’s office got fired. I know people resigned over this. It was worth it.
It was worth it. Oh no. Hands down, Charlie.
And you know, I told you this point in time, if there’s somebody that wants to go after me politically on this topic and run me out of office, answer my prayers, send me to Florida right now. Right. What do they pay you, by the way? Yeah, like 70, I think 70 grand is what we get.
Okay, dude. I get you job at Deconio, right? Yeah. Yeah.
You know, but this conversation, Charlie continues, you know, they’re hoping to have a complete, you know, audit potentially by the following week. The next thing, though, that I find interesting is that this this adult protective services workers narrative on a conversation with their supervisor. And what I’m reading from here, Charlie, is there’s a case management software, not unlike a court has when they do their case management.
And this is the case management software that adult protective services uses to keep track of the information in regard to their investigation. They do daily entries. They repeat conversation information.
It’s you know, it’s just to keep their notes, right? Right. So contact from the social worker to their supervisor, contact with the supervisor regarding the current status of this case. Concerns over filing guardianship due to previous attempts to remedy the concerns, having people who make the complaints fired from their positions.
What does that mean? They’re acknowledging it. They’re acknowledging it, Charlie. They’re acknowledging that there’s something going on.
By the way, these people that are being this, this is being reported to is the attorney general’s office. Yes. So there’s this means the attorney general knew all of this.
They scuttled the case. They gave the active criminal case file to the suspect, closed it. Two weeks later, adult protective services opens up a case.
And Kornak was going to get a judgeship by Whitmer. And the reason she didn’t is because this case was active. The attorney general’s people knew it all along.
Rose wanted Kornak out and they wouldn’t do anything. We walked by the case notes you just read from in real time. They were watching this.
Am I wrong or am I right? You’re absolutely correct. The date of that conversation, the date of that conversation was, uh, April of 25, 25. That was the entry.
But let me go back and tell you one thing. The investigation started in January of 23 and by June of 23, the adult protective services officer had come to the summation that there’s at least enough here to petition for a different conservator. Right.
Within six months of their investigation. Now my question is, why didn’t the attorney general’s office do this investigation? Why didn’t the attorney general’s office say to adult protective services, when you find something, will you please come back to us in the event that there is some there there and we can reopen this case? I have my opinion as to why they didn’t. And I believe the evidence supports my opinion as to what is that opinion.
The reason the opinion is that Tracy Kornak was immersed with Dana Nessel. She was on her transition team when she became attorney general. She was friends with her and she was the chair of the, uh, excuse me.
She was the treasurer of the democratic party. She included, she, she donated money to, uh, to, to, to Whitmer and Nessel, um, raised money. She threw that around.
She threw that around. There’s testimony in these documents of individuals who said that Tracy Kornak regularly said things like, I am friends with Gretchen Whitmer and Dana Nessel. Tell me why you say that, Charlie.
There’s only one reason you say that. That’s to intimidate people. I want to play a clip that just, I want to play a clip that shows exactly or says exactly what Jay was just talking about.
Tracy Kornak constantly throws around that she’s best friends with governor Gretchen Whitmer around the facility and that she noted all the time that her, uh, that she does something with finances related to the democratic party. Then in November of 2023, November 28th, 2023, an interview was completed with Tracy Kornak through the Kent County Sheriff’s office with her attorney president. If I can interrupt you for just a quick second, Mr. Markarian, um, I can tell you the, the interview is not in the APS file, but it is in the Kent County Sheriff’s department report.
And the very first thing Ms. Kornak said was, I’ve already been cleared by the attorney general’s office. Cleared by the attorney general’s office. That is an untrue statement, actually, to be fair.
They closed the case because they said there was no complainant that was willing to be a complainant. Tracy Kornak was never cleared by the attorney general’s office. Case was closed.
However, they never, let me tell you the insight on this because I’m going to talk some more about it next week to see you next Tuesday when the attorney general’s office was investigating this, they never even subpoenaed the documents given to me by the director of that senior living facility, Joe LeBlanc. This cost him dearly. I knew they didn’t subpoena those.
So I called the attorney general’s investigator and said, would you like the documents? So I sent them knowing full well, it was going to go away. But once they had them, you at least had to open the door. And once I get in the door, you ain’t getting my foot out, nonsense.
And that was an insurance scam. Kornak was pretending that her daughter Delaney, we should say it now because it’s all over the, I wonder if she going to get charged for $50,000 trying to say that the college student was working 12 hour shifts and taking care of the old woman. Those were forgeries.
And from the hearing yesterday, I come to learn that while Delaney, by the way, let me, let me stop here. So the check for 50 grand, the bogus check that Kornak allegedly scammed out of the insurance company was sent to the nursing home. They’re like, we don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
They send it back. And then Kornak proceeded to take $50,000 out of this old woman’s account while the attorney general was allegedly investigating. Now what I found out from your hearing was these sheriff’s department, everybody, they went into the daughter’s bank account and found debit card withdrawals an hour away at the blue fin restaurant at Cordova, right? And, and, but just, it’s important.
You are right on the money, but here’s an important piece. When the auditor did that audit, they only looked into one month of this entire window of time. So when they demonstrated that she wasn’t here on these four days because we can demonstrate her use of her debit card, that was four days in a one month sampling of the entire time period.
Fuck. And they didn’t even go into the other months. Am I correct? Uh, it was something I’m, I’m just, I’m sorry, the show blew up.
I’m just freewheeling. Just on debit card. Now this is a homebound old brain damaged women living in a, in a senior center.
About $30,000 in debit card withdrawals. Uh, well actually no, the debit, the actual debit card withdrawals on Rosebird’s debit card was less than that. The troubling withdrawals that is going to get you close to that $30,000 number is $27,000 in cash, $100 bills that was withdrawn from Ms. Bird’s accounts.
You want to tell me what a 80 year old lady who lives in a, uh, a, you know, it’s private living, but it’s, you know, there’s people that check up on you, right? You want to tell me what a lady who, by the way, is room and board is paid for by state farm because of the car accident and gets a $500 allowance for her own spending was doing withdrawing $27,000 in cash, including one withdrawal, which was over $10,000. Whoa. So $100 bills, Charlie, not debit transaction, according to dollar bills, according to plant Moran up until 2024, about 420 grand in curious, suspicious withdrawals from this woman’s account.
According to the Allegan County probate court, the last year of her life, Kornick paid herself a hundred grand. And we have no idea what happened to the proceeds from the sale of the old woman’s condo, her insurance settlement from the car accident, which was sealed. There’s no record of that.
This could be a million dollars could be from the, uh, no, go ahead. If there’s questions. Well, don’t forget to read because I’m interested.
Do we know if Kornick has other elderly clients? I don’t know for sure. The answer on that, you know, anecdotal, no, no, I know anecdotally from what we’ve started to have a conversation on with individuals, it appears that she does. Oh, so we’re working.
That’s we are working in that direction. It appears that she does. Well, we know that she has her, we know that she has Rosebird’s son and that she named herself as the, you know, whatever the term is in this case, guardian or conservator in his trust, right? Here’s the beauty.
She knew that when Rose died, all of those Rose’s assets go now to her son’s trust. Well, she had to keep the train alive, right? Let me read from, let me read to you from, um, plant Moran’s, uh, you know, preliminary summary. Based on the analysis as described, we identified the following questionable transactions, categories, and related amounts, transfer payments from Ms. Bird to Kornick, $243,000, what payments from $243,000 payments from state farm.
Yeah. Well, get your calculator out. Sure.
I’m right here. State farm deposited into Ms. Kornick’s, uh, PC account, her attorney account, uh, $92,000. So wait a minute.
Transfer. Wait a minute. Wait a minute there.
So state farm, which pays for the woman’s healthcare, her room, her board, somehow Kornick’s get nearly a hundred grand from them. Uh, yeah. $92,000.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
This is like, this is like my daughter’s given 12 hours a day fucking care. Okay. Go on.
Uh, transfer payments from Ms. Bird to, uh, Kurt Tarba, $52,000 cash withdrawals, right? Cash withdrawals from birds account, $26,794. And then there’s some other miscellaneous, you know, dollar amounts. They’re not very large, but they’re delinquent deposits.
She’s the conservator and she was getting charged for delinquencies because she didn’t have money in the bank accounts to cover bills. So, you know, roughly a grand total of 420,000. That’s just on those items.
You brought up great points, which is, we don’t know where her settlement is from her car accident. It’s a sealed document in court. My understanding is the Kent County and Allegheny County probate are working to get that document unsealed to determine the dollar amount, because there is no record in Ms. Bird’s finances of that money ever making it to her.
Holy. Hey, Nestle, you knew I told you, Hey Gary, at the Detroit news, I told you.
Who’s ever run in the free press? What is wrong with you? Why did you do this? You deserve what you’re getting. Oh, fuck. So the, you know, you heard narrative in the media after our last hearing from the attorney general’s office that said that for all intents and purposes, the case was closed in September.
Right. Of of what would have been of 22. Yeah.
Right. Now, again, I’m not going to make a judgment on motivation here. But I am going to say to you, that was either a tremendous inaccuracy statement or it was a lie.
The case was officially closed on December 19th of 2022. And if you don’t mind, Charlie, can I just read to you a little bit from the closing document? Jay, I would just prefer to, like, go have a coning, just have you talk to the people. I don’t need to do whatever you like.
I’m here. First, first sentence. I recommend this matter be closed because the alleged victim.
We all know is Roseburg, but because the alleged victim, the the village of Heather Hills, an assisted living facility through its new parent company, does not wish to make a criminal complaint or pursue a case against Tracy Kornack. That is deceptive. Statement number one out of the attorney general’s closing document.
Well, also, Heather Hills was not a victim. Well, no, they weren’t a victim. It was Roseburg.
And all you had to do was look right right from the rip. Like two weeks later, Adult Protective Services gets a call saying we’re noticing money missing from her account. And off we go.
That’s all you had to do. Now, continue. It’s interesting.
I was just going to say, go continue on this document. This document is telling Charlie, and you wonder why. Let me say this, Jay.
Jay, let me say this. Heather Hills received a check from State Farm for the bogus, allegedly bogus fifty thousand dollars. Right.
That was sent from Ohio. So that’s across state lines. This is now a federal crime.
I’m expecting the feds to walk in here. Please continue reading this document. Yes.
By the way, that check was sent to Heather Hills after State Farm recognized that the invoice that they had received to pay to write that check to had a mailing address that was Tracy Kornack’s house. And they said, well, that’s that’s not Heather Hills address. So let me finish with this document because it’s telling Charlie Farm new attempts to investigate.
This is the closing document. Attempts to investigate after the LeDuff article was published. When’s the last time an attorney general started an investigation just because someone published a story like is that typical, Charlie? I don’t know.
I mean, maybe it is. I don’t know. Ready.
Confirm that no criminal complaints have been filed against Tracy Kornack. Is is is that is the position of the attorney general’s office that in order to file a criminal charge on certain cases, they must have a complainant. Right.
We all know that that is not the case. Let left multiple unreturned messages for Joe LeBlanc and were later informed by Heather Hills that LeBlanc no longer worked for Heather Hills, nor was he authorized to make statements on Heather Hill’s behalf. They were leaving messages for Mr. LeBlanc and sending him emails to his work contact information that he didn’t work at.
Interviewed Kornack, who stated her ward was injured in a car accident and so no fault insurance through State Farm covered the ward’s expenses at Heather Hills. Kornack also stated that the expenses referenced in LeDuff’s article were for respite care during the COVID-19 pandemic when Heather Hills was understaffed. Why are they giving us a statement in their closing documents from the potential uh uh uh criminal and it has nothing to do with what the criminal charges are or potential criminal charges? Next one, we’re unable to get any information or statement from Heather Hills former or current attorneys.
Again, horribly inept, either don’t know what you’re talking about or are a liar because there is a letter written by the attorney from Heather Hills that specifically outlines their position on these checks and the behavior of Tracy Kornack and the attorney general’s office had that. That is either a lie or incompetence right there. Obtain a statement from Heather Jablonski, Heather Hills new administrator that Heather Hills was not interested in pursuing a case against Kornack or making any statement on the matter.
That could be true. Heather Hills was not a victim. Heather Hills was not at not out any money.
Heather Hills was paid every dollar they so were entitled to. How could they be possibly a victim? How could they bring charges? For these reasons, I recommend closing the investigation. The entire bullet points of the reasons for closing the investigation never mentioned Rose Byrd.
They did not interview Rose Byrd. They did not talk to anyone other than Tracy Kornack. By the way, their first discussion with Tracy Kornack was when she voluntarily showed up at the attorney general’s office after she read the article that you published.
How many people that have those kind of allegations pushed against them show up at the AG’s office? If I might unsolicited, she she talks to the AG’s investigator, right? And she tells the AG’s investigator tells her because I have those those investigative notes. Kornack told the investigator. Yes, indeed.
I have removed money from Ms. Byrd’s account to pay my daughter. And there’s no log of her daughter ever performing work. Yes, I have removed money.
And I will reimburse Ms. Byrd’s account when the insurance company gives me the check. And the check had been returned six months earlier. It didn’t take a rocket scientist.
That is correct. The money had been sent back to State Farm. Yes, because there was no valid invoicing to to justify the expense from State Farm.
They Heather Hill sent that check back to State Farm because it should never have been issued. Additionally, there are text messages that say between Tracy Kornack and Joe LeBlanc at Heather Hills when Joe says, what are we supposed to do? Because remember, he’s operating under the assumption that Tracy Kornack’s the conservator. She’s looking out for the financial best interest of Ms. Byrd, at least at the time he was operating under that assumption.
He says, what are we supposed to do with this check? Thinking is this a justifiable expense? Her response to him is cash the check, keep 10 percent and send me the money. Charlie, that’s a shakedown. 10 percent, but a big guy.
Correct. It is. Yeah, it’s conspiracy.
Again, let me say it this way. On around July of 2022, when Kornack gives her statement, I took money out and I’m going to put it back in after the insurance company gives me the check. About six months earlier in February, the lawyer for the nursing home wrote to her and said, we sent the check back.
What you did is a crime. You tried to involve us in it and whatever, you know, we’re going to we’re going to need some money used. She used Heather Hill’s employee ID number on the invoice.
She used a home care agency’s title header on the invoice. They were fraudulently made up invoices. The reason that she did what she did is because she believed that she could circumvent a system that says if a relative or an associate is giving care, you’re only allowed to pay them roughly $12 an hour.
If they’re a certified agency providing service, the insurance companies will pay them $30 an hour. She she attempted to get payment at $30 an hour for services she claims were done by her daughter, which we all know the evidence points. Yeah.
Which we all know points to the fact that her daughter didn’t provide the first time. That’s pretty ornate. Concocting documents hit me.
So madam, are you going to charge your friend with lying to investigators? You’re making a big show. These Dana Nestle’s elder abuse task force. I’m going to find it.
I’ll get it to you next week. Once I get these documents from Jay, I’m going to line up when Nestle is parading around, pretending she’s looking after your people. This is grotesque, absolutely grotesque.
It’s like it snows heavy and your roof falls in. And what do you do if your roof falls in or your pipes burst in the call that tell the insurance company you call public adjusters Midwest? That’s what you do. Listen to me, Jay.
This ain’t going to cost you a nickel. The worst day of your life is if your house catches on fire or your pipes burst in your basement fills up. What you do is you call public adjusters Midwest at 855-975-2020.
Let me do it again. Write it down. I don’t I don’t see a right to get my back.
Go. Okay. Ready? Now do it.
Do me a favor. Call them and tell it at 855-975-2020 or call Pam first.com because, you know, you’ve had insurance adjusters come over and they give you a number and you’re a dope. You don’t know anything on my house caught on fire.
Do you know if there’s fire damage inside the wall? Are you getting paid for that? See, they send an adjuster, but you don’t have an adjuster. So these at Pam, they are like your insurance lawyer. You call them doesn’t cost you anything, right? Put that number with your insurance papers and call them before you call the insurance company.
It’s just like being in a court of law. Have somebody represent you. Okay.
Okay. Got it. Seems logical.
What’s the name of the place? Logical. What’s the name of the place? I don’t know. Pam first.
Pam. There you go. There you Pam.
Public Adjusters Midwest. And you know what? What’s the phone number? It’s 855-975-2020. Very good.
Now here’s what you do because you’re going to come down. We are going to have a beer together. It’s an amazing amount of work that you gladly.
Okay. And you’re going to bring your insurance papers. And because I was just fast.
I spent two hours with them. Anybody listening to the program, if you go to Pam, they’ll look at your insurance papers to make sure you’re covered free, right? Do you have the backup sewage that you need in your insurance plan? I took a mine. I got their card with my stuff.
I, I believe anything I’m talking about. I believe it. You know what else I believe in? Bernie Yoskowitz.
Well, you know, when it rains, the power goes out. And when the power goes out, the internet goes out. When the internet goes out, I call my friend, Matt and Bernie at XG Service Group.
Look at Bernie here on his hands and knees, giving it everything he’s got. Look at that man crack. So busy.
He forgot to wear a belt. There’s Matt right there getting the board together. That’s 734-245-4100.
If you need Matt and Bernie to come take care of your voiceover internet, your security cameras, off-campus access control, wifi and cameras for homes and business, they’ll design it for you. You got restaurants. They do drive through systems, railroad cameras for public safety, total wireless camera systems for your home and business.
Yeah, that’s right. Call XG services at 734-245-4100. Hey bro, you there Jay? Oh yeah.
Have you checked your phone yet? Hang on. It’s going to screw your camera up. That’s okay.
That’s fun. My boss just sent me a text. You want to hear it? One, lock her up.
Lock her up. Two, too bad they waited until a Wednesday to charge her though. Well, you know.
By the way, I never, I never called Dana Nessel a ****. I said, see you next Tuesday. I never called her a **** until now.
What did you do? Jay, do you promise me? Are you pushing this forward? Impeacher. I can push where I can push, right? And I’m going to do that. What I can say to you is that the telling point, you know, to bring this rate back again, Rosalyn Byrd, who I have sincere, you know, disappointment in the treatment that she received is a big deal to me as a human being, right? And as a role, the oversight chair, here’s the, here’s the telling thing.
They closed that case, Charlie. They had the information about the fraudulent billing documents. They had the information about using the EIN.
They had the information that Tracy Kornick had nothing to do with the agency that she put on the header for those billing documents. She had, they had all of the evidence to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what’s going on here? If nothing else, there’s something going on here that doesn’t smell right. But then they just rapidly moved to, there’s nothing to see here.
So, so you’re telling me that if an individual takes someone’s EIN number without permission and they draft an invoice and they send the invoice to an insurance company and the nature and the basis for the invoice is fraudulent, I need somebody to be willing to press charges against them. I don’t have the authority as the attorney general’s office on face value to charge them. I mean, I am not a lawyer.
I’m just a lumber salesman. I don’t know the first thing about some of that stuff, but to me, if the attorney general’s office doesn’t have that authority to just charge a common criminal, you know, what are we doing all over the country, you know, fighting and for different purposes? I mean, what are we doing? The vulnerable individuals of Michigan are being policed. And then the attorney general’s on the front steps talking about, yeah, it’s all the way to the top.
You couldn’t make a Netflix movie about this. It’s unbelievable. Remember now, let me, let me tie this up.
You let her go and covered for her to continue to suck the blood out of this woman. You watched, you now are in possession of the documents that the attorney general’s office knew this continued. You covered for her.
You committed a crime, a crime against humanity. And I’m not overstating it. We didn’t get any answers about the nursing homes.
This specifically goes to treatment in the nursing home. You got to move her dude. You got to move her out.
Do I need to call speaker? Do I got to call the speaker? I would not tell you what or what you should or should not do. That’s up to you. You’re a journalist.
Is he a righteous man? Is he a righteous man? Yes. Yes. Does he put politics aside occasionally to do what’s right? I don’t know him.
I would say, I would say yes, to the extent that you need to. He’s been on this program. I do believe he’s an honorable person.
That’s doing the people’s business. That’s what I know about him. I sure to hope he’s listening, sir.
I would say that he’s a rather, yes, he’s a rather effective speaker. It doesn’t mean that everybody’s going to agree with his policies, but he’s rather effective in the sense that the things that he does are, are specifically designed to improve the quality of life for the citizens and taxpayers in the state of Michigan. So from that perspective, we lived through it.
We know like this to me, I’m old enough that I don’t think there’s much to learn anymore, but I learned a lot of stuff. It was like, as you were reading, it’s read that one more time from the special assistant attorney general about give me a sec. Yeah.
The politics of this. So I understand, but sometimes you have to set politics aside because when Ken and I went to Alley and County probate that we call them the groupies, right? But it’s, it’s a group of women specifically who have been, their loved ones have been eaten alive like this and they can get no justice. So they’re looking at you.
They’re looking at me. This one is noticeable enough that maybe changes could be made. I’ll help you out.
Jay. Here’s a clip from the hearing. No, I want Jay to read it.
I got it. I got it right here. Before you do that, before you do that again, it’s very heavily political.
I want to thank Chris Becker, the Kent County prosecutor, very difficult. He put a lot of time into this. He, he had his own chasms that he fell into.
He brought it. He’s up for reelection. Kent County take a very good look at this man.
I know him to be very honorable. He did his work. It’s really difficult what he did, but it was proper.
And that’s who we need representing us. Go ahead, Jay. Yes.
I just want to remind you, this is from the case management software from the adult protective services services agency. And this is an entry from the investigating officer. What’s the date? The entry date is April 25th, 2025, which by the way, would be 20 days after Rosalynn Byrd had passed away.
Contact with attorney general Worth. The case was reviewed with Amanda. She reported that because of the sensitivity of the case and the connection that Ms. Cornack has with government officials and the mystery surrounding the last people to blow the whistle on Ms. Cornack, that it was best to wait to see if the accounting comes up with criminal charges rather than file a modification or a guardianship case as there will be more than enough evidence to request a guardian at that time.
With what is being reported, Amanda did not feel comfortable with filing in probate. Charlie, that entire narrative I just read to you is essentially saying to the people that may read this in the future that the evidence is there. Everything we need to do, what we need to do is there.
But because of the sensitivity of the case, we’re going to do nothing. Now, my question, and I did pose this in committee yesterday, was this, what does the sensitivity have to do with it? And what does the word sensitivity mean? The word sensitivity, Charlie, means that Tracy Cornack has a relationship with Dana Nessel. That’s what sensitivity means.
And why does sensitivity matter? Sensitivity matters because Dana Nessel is the chief law enforcement as the AG in the state of Michigan. So it becomes sensitive to the fact that nothing had been done by the attorney. The only sensitive thing is that the attorney general has done nothing, and the evidence points that they should have done something.
There is your sensitivity. Well said. I’m going to leave it at that.
Mark, don’t play the end. I want you, don’t edit this. Let the audience know exactly how it works.
In post, I want you to put the Tracy Cornack at the courthouse with the elevator, the very excellent work by Ken Beck, proprietary stuff for the enjoyer.com. If you can’t sleep, get the Detroit News. If you want the news, go to enjoyer.com. Jay, I will be calling you, my brother. Power to the people.
Stay safe. They’re after you, right? Peek through the blinds before you walk out the door. You understand what I’m saying? I do.
Thank you, Charlie. Thank you for the work you did on this. And Miss Byrd, I hope gets some justice.
Her son. She’s gone. Her son.
There’s another senior citizen here. Okay, brother. Thank you.
And give me those documents. Thank you. All right.
You bet. Roll that. What do you think this ranks in terms of skullduggery, pedophiles, puppy abusers, and people who steal old people’s money? Tracy Cornack, the former treasurer of the Michigan Democratic Party, was hauled into court this week, suspected of embezzling from her ward a brain damaged old lady.
Well, now the old woman is dead and the probate judge has ordered a full blown forensic investigation going back a decade. And here comes the suspect. Miss Cornack, sounds to me like the judge thinks you embezzled from a brain damaged old lady.
You have any comment on that? Can you tell me what happened to me? Stop touching me. Okay, so I’m right here. Stop touching me.
Don’t you think you shouldn’t have touched the woman’s money? Don’t you think that you shouldn’t have? Did you collude with the attorney general to make this case go away? Do you think she should be impeached? Stop touching me. What happened to the woman’s money? Stop touching me. Stop touching me.
Excellent. Stop touching me. So what do you think this ranks in terms of skullduggery, pedophiles, puppy abusers, and people who steal old people’s money? The sheriff of Kent County’s investigated unit is recommending 20 years in prison for identity theft and embezzlement.
Any comment on that? Who was using the old woman’s debit card the day after she died? Was that you? Do you regret this? Are you a misogynist? Ma’am, do you think you can do the time? You think she can do the time? Going down?
