No BS Newshour Episode #416
“I Got the Dirt on Duggan”
(31:57) Real estate mogul and former Duggan-backer backtracks. Herb Strather promises to take the “little guy” out.
If Duggan goes low, he’ll go lower.
Duggan told him: “I hope you have a good lawyer.”
Strather responds: Bring it on. “If you ain’t found something to die for, you’re gonna die for nothing.”
(0:04) The Detroit News sells what’s left of its soul
(56:58) PLUS- Our new segment See You Next Tuesday.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Removing dirt. Where’s he putting that dirt? Oh, it’s going to landfill, not next to the hospital. Here it comes.
How you doing, brother? Good. We’re just trying to figure out why the dirt is being taken from the front and being dropped back here instead of the landfill. Any idea? No idea, but I’ll be in here.
But it says apply within. Look for the office, see if we can get ourselves a condo before the stampede happens and we get closed out of this beautiful new development in Southfield. The city within a city, it’s called.
Hey, man. That’s the model? Yes. This is going to be nice.
Right here’s where the dirt is. And they take the dirt and they spread it all around here. And it doesn’t cost to take it to an effective and safe landfill.
And then they’ll build this on top of it. And then the children who play over here in the hospital over here will all be great, but not right now. Fucking elevators don’t work.
It’s going to be done by the end of the year, though. That’s what they said. They’re going to move it at the end of the month.
Wow. They’re putting the fucking dirt back there up here. Look, he’s spreading it on the sidewalk.
What are you doing? Where do they find the dirt? Over there. It’s in pharmacy. So what he said was dirt came from over there, the great big Mount Kilimanjaro Pukko.
And then they take it over there and then they take the rocks out of it and put it over there. They’re just spreading this shit all over the place. So you’re telling me that this is clean, fresh soil? Yes.
This is where did it come from? From the soil pile over there next to the screen. And where did that come from? That came from that soil. Get off the site.
Huh? Get off the site. I want to know where this dirt came from. You don’t have proof.
Who are you? I don’t even know who you are. I’m a citizen who has to breathe this shit in because you’re putting it on the fucking sidewalk. This is not toxic dirt.
Yeah. Do you have documents? Where did you get it? I know all the dirt on this site. Everywhere.
Yes. Because you can’t move dirt around without anything being tested. Right.
That’s just by law. But you’re saying go to City Hall, they should have it. Is the mayor in? Well, that’s the hall right there.
You have reached the Office of Mayor Kenton Seifer. We are not available to take your call at this time. Hi, good afternoon.
It’s Charlie Liddell from the Michigan Enjoyer. I thought I’d stop by and say hello to Ken and ask him where the soil analytical papers are for the Northland site. He has my number.
So have a great day. He likes to come in late on Monday. To send this message, press pound or hang up.
What a welcome, OG Herbstrather. He’s the guy that built modern Detroit, brought the casinos in, $2 billion in private development. The OG.
Thanks for being here. Thanks for being here. It’s really good to be here, Charlie.
All right. Let me just take a listen to this and let me just put a period on this debacle. It’s Detroit’s poison, Southfield’s poison.
Everybody trying to cover it up. You can’t cover it up, Mike. Okay.
If the publisher of the Detroit News were to suddenly donate his salary to charity, he’d still be overpaid. Sir, it’s time to retire. Over the past few years, the news under his stewardship has owned a reputation as a lapdog for corporate and political interests.
Now he’s removed all doubts with the news’s latest journalistic atrocity. Look at this here. Look at this.
Here it is. Here’s the hard copy newspaper. The above the fold headline and Tuesday’s paper available at your local gas station next to the snack cakes herb for $3.49. It reads, mall site redevelopment takes shape in Southfield.
Say what? The place won’t be open for years if ever. You just saw it. I used to be a columnist at the news.
Oh, wait, look here. Not only here with a nice blue background, all of page two. Wow.
Absolutely no news in it. Nothing happened. You could see it.
Nothing’s happening over there. They’re Johnny laying grout. Okay.
I used to be a columnist at the news, so I know they are familiar with my work. It’s no secret. I’ve been working on a series of stories about the environmental scandal surrounding the redevelopment of the old Northland mall site in the city of Southfield, Michigan, across eight mile road into Oakland County, a poisoning so big that it may eventually rival the Flint water debacle.
Now, some quick background. Southfield city leaders bought the site 10 years ago thinking they had the brains to develop at herb. They did not.
They never had brains in city hall to develop anything. Leave it to herb. There are miles, miles of subterranean tunnels on the site, and mayor Ken Siver invited area contractors to dump their construction debris to fill the tunnels there.
Oh, my God. Uh-huh. Siver claims the dirt was clean, though, as you saw multiple times on this program, the city’s never tested it.
They said, we never tested it when we turned it over to the private developer. Is that legal? My God. That’s not legal, is it, herb? I mean, they certainly require us to provide clean soil.
That was very disingenuous. This is a brownfield, so you need phase one, phase two. You got to have all this before it can change hands.
Absolutely, you have to. This is herb. Hey, mayor.
Mayor. Oh, gee. I’m not making this shit up.
Okay. Numerous contractors and city officials say otherwise. It’s not clean.
And it all came to a head late last year after we at the Michigan Enjoyer in the No Bullshit News Hour published a series of stories featuring whistleblowers who claimed that the new Northland developer, Contour Companies, you ever heard of them? Yes. Yeah, I know you’ve heard of them. Absolutely.
I’ve communicated with them. I did some development there on the Northland site, too. There was a church, a church, Reverend Kinloch’s church.
We took his old building that he bought, he bought the building, and we switched it and traded the building for the parking lot. So I was the consultant to make that switch. Well, there’s no church over there.
Yeah, Triumph. What? Triumph Church. Of course, on Northland Drive, Triumph.
Oh, right. Yeah, in the back. Oh, that’s his? Yes.
Now, what? You remember all the dirt there? Yeah. Remember everybody bitching about it? Yes, absolutely. And if they didn’t test that dirt, that’s the problem, Mr. Mayor, Ken.
That’s the problem. You’re in trouble. Well, wait a minute.
Let them test it. It’s not a gone conclusion they’re in trouble because maybe the dirt is clean. Maybe it don’t need a phase two.
But if they haven’t done a phase one on it, I can’t believe it. How does it change hands? It can’t change hands. It’s not supposed to.
No. Okay. So there you go.
We got a big deal somewhere. Okay. Let’s hope that dirt is clean.
Let’s just hope. Now, that dirt was supposed to go to the landfill once the contour companies took it, but we’re now finding out it got diverted to Detroit into the demolition sites. Yes, sir.
Now, I’ll go on. Watch this. Much of the dirt, according to everybody involved at that site, a lot of whistleblowers talking to me, much of that dirt came from the freeway and sewer jobs.
I-75, remember we had Antonio call up the other day, said I took it directly from I-75 and put it right on the east side. That’s what he said. Now, tests conducted by the city of Detroit in this demolition scandal show that the Southfield dirt, they know it came from Southfield that it was too toxic for human contact.
Okay. It’ll cost tens of millions to clean up. We’ll get to that.
Now, executives at Contour could not be reached. The corporate telephone line yesterday was not accepting messages. Meanwhile, mounds of the stuff, as you saw, still sit at the Northland site blowing in the wind.
And this week, as you saw, we filmed workers moving the mounds of all around the site, rearranging it like peas on a plate. They were dumping it right across the street from a hospital and a child daycare center and Triumph Church. The scandal’s so profound that in February, the Detroit Police Organized Crime Unit forwarded the case to the FBI.
This is commonly known. Even the Detroit Free Press reported as much last week, many weeks after we reported it. But none of these facts appear in this news story.
None of these facts. Instead, the news wrote, the site’s water tower was recently painted. And in the distance, crews were working near what is slated to become a previously announced boutique hotel.
They painted the water tower. They painted the water tower. Let’s read that last part again.
In the distance, crews were working near what is slated to become a previously announced boutique hotel. Now, you’re in the construction game. What the fuck does that mean? I don’t know.
Gary, any idea what that even means? Now, I explained all this to the gas station clerk and her eyes went really wide. She goes, fake news. That’s why no one buys it.
And she would know it had dust on it. Now, the news reporter was given a tour of a model showroom. I didn’t know they had a model showroom.
They don’t got elevators in there. They don’t got walls in there. She wrote that the place will start to fill up with residents as early as the end of the month.
Now, Herb, I’m no builder. You are. We had you here today.
You can’t occupy a building without a certificate of occupancy. Is that correct, sir? Correct. And normally, you would have to have windows and walls, right? Wouldn’t you? I would suppose so, yes.
Well, it’s obviously not going to be occupied by the end of the month. It’s only so many days, right? Right. Now, it’s all got to be done, not like, oh, this half of the building’s done.
It’s got to be done. It’s just me. I don’t know.
Well, let’s see. I just call guys who know. Now, one of the reporters tried the water taps.
Shower? In a neat case of synchronicity, Herb, I also happened to visit the place around the time she was visiting the place. We just saw radically different things. Again, the elevators weren’t operable.
You saw a guy named Johnny there in the lobby laying grout. We filmed it all, and you saw the surly foreman, who in turn was filming us. It was the same at the Detroit News with COVID, Kornack, Chrysler.
We never did get those jobs over at the G plant, did we? Remember? 10,000 jobs. They only got half that now. Nope.
The days of knee-pad journalism are over. Sir, time to close up shop. Florida’s calling you.
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Okay. It’s all right. Yeah, subtle, right? I don’t smell that much on it.
You know what it does? What is it? It’s invisible spray. It’s the Mando whole body deodorant. It’s my favorite.
Oh, it’s a deodorant. And they got a body wash, man. I use some ivory body wash.
That shit didn’t work. Just felt like I was putting lard all over myself. I’m like, where’s my Mando? So anyway, Mando, Shopmando.com. It’s cool.
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So what is it? It’s acidically based. Is it not? It is. Yes.
No aluminum? No, not that. No. Yeah.
And it, you know, it keeps you fresh, not heavy. It keeps you from perspiring. Yeah.
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Will do. That’s all fine then. Okay.
Now, before we, Herb and I want to talk about the Renaissance Center, but not just yet because we want to make the show go nice and smooth. I just want to finish up with that because I’ve got a guy that knows his business. Okay.
This demolition stuff, you heard about it down in Atlanta, didn’t you? Atlanta? Yeah. How long you been back? Well, I was there at Emory Hospital following my accident. Yeah.
But so I’m a Detroiter. Now let’s get that straight. I’m absolutely, I was born here and I’m going to die here, Charlie.
Everybody knows that. If I’m away, I tell everybody, just get me back to Detroit. I don’t want to die someplace else, buddy.
Okay. So we know FBI, because you didn’t know about the FBI and all this, but this is widening. It’s going to get big.
They’re misreporting. The newspapers are misreporting because they’re taking their cues from the power that be instead of digging around, forgive the pun. But Duggan’s campaign, according to the MI Democrats, because they’re out to kill him now, right? Turncoat, right? Okay.
Because he can’t be Jocelyn Benson in Detroit. They’re calling these stories about the poison holes fake. That’s his spokesperson and quote, get this, not gaining any traction.
Now that’s a political answer. Is it not, Gary? It just reeks of not caring about the public who might be growing vegetables and these children playing. You’re throwing fucking highways and we know what’s in a highway.
Those are called PCBs. Right. Cement absorbs everything.
Right. And this is what you did to the people. Is it, in your opinion, a big deal? It’s a very big deal, of course.
Of course, it’s a big deal. I mean, this will impact generations. Just think about it.
Like you said, you’re going to grow some vegetables in that. You understand what I mean? Yeah. Of course, it’s a big deal.
Do you know there are contracts with grocery stores and restaurants from these urban farmers to put it on your plate? Who’s checking? This is so fucking crazy. Now, I got to get this my way around, the old string and can telegraph network because Duggan’s campaign refuses to put me on their media list. If you can’t face me, how you face Trump? Yeah.
Well, because we’re going to need here, let me give you this. So when Duggan left, I’m sorry, folks, bear with me. I got a herb here.
All right. So just you can judge how honest and accurate this show is. When Duggan left office, he said it’s going to cost about eighteen thousand dollars for each of these holes to clean them up.
Right. Forget that we already spent twenty five grand. Yes.
Okay. Now here’s a contract that went through yesterday. I’m going to circle the number it’s for to provide fill, removal and replacement.
I just circled the square here. Herb, what’s that number? It’s fifty one thousand eight hundred forty two dollars and forty cents. Is this one property? One.
You got to be joking. I’m not joking. Can you believe it? Is that shot? Well, you know, I tell you, I was I was on Duggan’s executive committee.
You know, I begged him to run for office. I gave him his offer. You fucker.
I did. But let me but let me. That’s a tremendous sacrifice.
I went around to a lot of the churches and everything. And, you know, and I got stabbed in the back, like all over the radio. But after the first four years, I realized what had happened.
And when he ran last time, I ran a full page ad not to vote for Duggan. What changed your mind? What changed my mind? Just look at it. When Duggan came, I’m a real estate developer, especially in northwest Detroit.
Just look at northwest Detroit. Now, just look at what they’ve effectively done is raise their property taxes five hundred percent. Five hundred.
I absolutely objected because they raised a bunch of my buildings. You know what? And and it’s not just me. It’s broad.
There are twenty seven vacant apartment buildings on northwest Detroit. There was three when when Duggan came in. Now, Duggan has done a tremendously great job in Cass Corridor.
But the rest of us, the rest of Detroit is paying for that. Let me give you a great example. In University District, you know where that’s that between six and seven mile road liver noise.
You know, I used to live over there. OK, well, then the cops told me to move my van. Well, let me tell you something.
One of my story is a fucking story. So one of my students was I was checking on their house and I noticed that it had taxes at seven hundred ninety nine dollars. I said, how is that possible? So I took and went down the street.
All of the houses are seven ninety nine that I just went all the way around. And some of the I found three tax bills, seven ninety nine, nine twenty four and nine ninety nine and ten twenty four. Other words, a thousand twenty four dollars is the amount of taxes they pay on those half a million dollar houses.
In the meantime, if you in northwest Detroit on Sussex and Fayetteville someplace, you’re paying three or four thousand dollars. So what what I got it, Duggan. Now, see, here’s seven neighborhoods, his select neighborhoods to get the millennials in.
I got it. You know, we get a higher tax base and all of that. But should Detroit have to pay for that? Did that go too far? So we objected.
We absolutely objected. Detroit Association of Realtors. We I went down there.
I’m the past president now. Went down there and I met with the city assessors and I said, I know you couldn’t have possibly done that. They said, Herbert’s 400 parcels and you jacked it all up five hundred percent.
Under what theory? The theory is this. Look how great of value we’ve increased in the city. Duggan, you’ve screwed us, my man.
And I’m sorry I did this. Did you did you see the viral video a couple of weeks ago? My friend Mikey was on the program. It was on of McNichols between Finkel McNichols at Greenfield.
Listen, let me tell you something. With all the nomadics living in one of the four million. Between Six Mile and Puritan, 80 percent of the buildings are vacant.
Now Six Mile and Puritan, that’s where I started off. I bought one sixty six hundred a long time ago up that street. I’ve owned most of those buildings maybe once or twice.
I’ve bought them and sold them. But that was our premier street. Now, look at it.
You would live on it. Have you seen it? Yeah. If you go down Greenfield, I invite somebody to ride down Greenfield with a bodyguard.
Me and you should go because I went from five mile to nine mile. Man, you could go down the street. I can tell you every address who owned it and what happened.
I can tell you which dope gang is controlling which building. And then finally, you make it to the promised land. You get to eight mile.
You’re in the suburbs, Oakland County. And there is the fucking Southfield Superfund site. This is what’s going on.
They don’t want you to know it, Herb. They don’t want you to know it. We got raped.
Would you agree? I think you’re aware of the city’s finances. We’re fucked. There’s no margin.
There’s no room to borrow. There’s nothing. Well, I’m not familiar.
I’m not going to talk about what I don’t know about. I would think that we should have some decent credit because I think that Duggan has been a good fiscal manager. But he is blindsided.
He doesn’t realize. He’s mad, in my opinion. The first three budgets, Kevin Orr made them.
Then there’s a financial review board. Those have to be balanced. And for 10 years, the city had a pension tax holiday.
They didn’t have to pay 150 million into the pension. That’s all it was. Now we got to pay.
And that fucker got gone. He’s trying to diminish the fact that you want it. He let his cronies steal all this dirt money.
When you came in 2014, when you got him into office, right away, the feds had a grand jury on the dirt. Then he managed to make it go away through Biden and the deal. I remember that.
You remember that. Right. And now it’s coming back again.
Yeah, but it’s city money now, so there’s no federal involvement per se. But it’s been going on forever. Well, I mean, it really was part of the fed because of AARP money that came in, you know, that kind of stuff.
American Rescue Act, yeah. Yeah. Bid rigging, price setting, environmental scandal, all of it.
We’ve had to pay over and over and over. Right. And so now our streets, if you take Schaefer, if you take Greenfield, if you take Lasher, they are adorned with vacant buildings.
I got up on Schoolcraft the other day in Southfield and I rode down to Greenfield and there are four apartment buildings and three of them are vacant and boarded up. I’m telling you, it wasn’t like this three or four years ago. Duggan policies, it’s not just Duggan’s policy.
There’s two things. There’s three things that’s intersected and made it very challenging. And you got to be very careful buying property in the city.
You know, my students were very, very careful when we buy property because you uncapped the taxes, you’re finished. And somebody may qualify for one amount, they uncapped the taxes, take it up five hundred percent, they lose the house. So just think about if you bought a property five years ago, OK, and you had a five year term, you know, a 30 year amortization, a five year term is typical, Charlie.
So let’s say now it comes due five years from now. Back then, interest rates were three and a half percent or four, three and a half, really. Yeah.
Now there’s six and seven. So interest rates can double. Can you refinance? That’s a challenge.
But maybe you can because rents have went up. But dig this. Now all of a sudden, taxes have went up.
Taxes go up five hundred percent. I said, you can’t do that. I will give you an example.
Well, let me let me just because it’s a bit in the weeds. Look, here’s here’s they listen to this program up in shit. Where would Fox Dino live now, man? Gaylord? Yeah.
Everywhere. Yeah. The billboards up there and the billboards say, Duggan, most effective mayor in America.
I tax property taxes three years in a row. Is that true or false or false? Who’s checking? I’m checking. And listen, man, let me tell you something.
You could check yourself, everybody. I tell you what, go to regrid.com and then go to University District and take your clicker and put it on every one of those parcels. You go to Palmer Woods and you click those parcels and you pay when they could pay less than a thousand dollars.
You dug and call that good property management. Listen, I don’t want to get upset about it, but it does piss me off. I was looking at is a lot of his inner sanctum live there.
And there’s a lot of like enterprise zone abatements. That’s what it is that had expired. And there’s still there’s still they’re overdone.
So this is what the city said they’ll do. What we’re asking them to do is three things that to cap taxes and no more than a hundred percent per cycle. Now, let me say what it means.
That means if you bought a house that your taxes cannot more than double. I mean, there’s just a double taxes to something very frightening. And we understand the taxes were low through bankrupts and all of that kind of stuff, but, but, but not more than double per cycle.
That’s the number one, because you buy a house that you qualified for. Now, once they, then they get it and jack your taxes up, you didn’t qualify. You wouldn’t have qualified for those taxes.
Now you got to pay this gigantic tax bill and you’re done. And you’re going to lose your house. You’re going to be foreclosed.
You’re going to get wiped out. You’re going to be Greenfield. There’s no question about it.
So we’re saying, do not, we’re asking the city. Number one, number two, property taxes as a percent of income on income property is about 10 to 12%. Do you realize something? The city have taken them up in some cases at 50%.
Now you think I’m joking. No, no, no. What I’m thinking is the guy in the car going, what the fuck is Herb talking about? Property taxes have, have went up so much that you’re forced into foreclosure.
It’s the worst time in the city that Duggan has screwed us and nobody know about it, but I’m going to tell everybody when I get to Mackinac. I’m going to put my story in the Michigan Chronicle. Duggan, you got it coming, buddy.
Well, I’ll move off this just by this. Last year when, that’s Conspiracy Ken over there. That’s, that’s the editor and film man, right? Last year when we cracked this, all of a sudden a million dollar contract came through city council to test the dirt.
Okay. That’s when they said, well, it was about 50, about 50 houses, Ken, 50 sites, a million bucks. A million bucks.
Okay. Now show you how the scope is widening. City council just voted to approve another 3.5 million yesterday.
So for a total of like- To test the dirt. Just testing. It wasn’t done before, but just to test the dirt.
That, yeah. Now, now let me try your math skills. My God, man.
We know that it.
$50,000 contract to dig it up and fill it up, right? That’s one house. The newspapers are incorrectly reporting it’s 650 houses that are suspect now, sites. It’s well over 1,000, but 600 sites times 50,000 is… What? 30 million? 30 million.
Is that correct? Yeah. I’m adding real quick if I can. Yeah, I know, right? Obviously, 30 million for just 600.
They did 30,000 of these. This is ridiculous, man. This is going to bust the city.
And this is what Duggan has done for us. And now he wants to run for governor. So you know what they’re… Now he wants to run for governor.
Exactly. So he, Mary Sheffield, everybody’s invested in covering this up. Wait, let me tell you the thing… And the Detroit News.
The thing that you have to understand about Mike, and I told Mike, I said, Mike, I got it in writing. I told him I’m going to tell everybody what I know about you. And he said, you better get a lawyer.
I’m going to tell… I got some stuff on him. I’m going to say it. I’m going to tell everybody, Duggan, because I got some stuff, buddy.
You understand? Charlie, you’re so funny. Don’t forget to call your friend, Charlie. Hey, Charlie, you just hang tough.
We’re going to do this real slow. A slow drip over the summer. Oh, so that by a thousand… And listen here, I kind of dripping one thing, but let me just finish this one important point.
Okay. On income property, say you got a two flat. Okay.
I got to give you a great example. I think there’s one in 186, 987 Roseland or something like that. I went to the university district and just took a list of the assessments.
I did a filter through re-grid to see which ones. So you take a two flat that… So the taxes on it, if it sells for $300,000, $150,000, they take the assessment 150 times the tax of 90. When they finish with it, you have a tax that takes one rent.
So the tax is $14,000 a year on these houses. Over $10,000, between 10 to 14,000 taxes on a two flat. Yeah.
So if that’s the taxes, then you got utilities, then you got maintenance, you got insurance. Now insurance have tripled right now. You can’t hardly get insurance.
And then on top of that, the court is not allowing landlords to put people out there, giving them a court. The city council awarded a million dollar contract for a law firm to represent tenants. They should say, well, look, pay into escrow your rent and then do it.
But do you see the situation we’re in? All of these things are coming together and we’re getting our brains beat out. And Douglas is going to carry this across the state. Holy Douglas, you got some questions to answer.
I want to tell you the reason that I think that Douglas really should not run. He should stop. Although he’s a manager and my cousin is his assistant, and she took me out, he’s a very, very, very mean person.
You understand? He don’t forget and he don’t remember both. You understand what I mean? He’s a very, very mean person. Let me tell you an example.
Let me give you a perfect example. Reverend Smith, Aretha Franklin went to that church right there on Philadelphia and Linwood. So we took across the street.
There was a apartment building that the church was involved in. It is low income housing tax credits. And so we said, look, we’re going to renovate that building.
So my class, my class went and entered into a deal and bought the building and got it renovated. And we had a gap. We was one hundred and fifty thousand dollars short.
So we went to the IFF. They give you grants and they loved it so much because we called it the Aretha. And we’re going to put a little etching in glass.
It was always, oh, it was off the hook. They gave us a half a million, they said. They were so excited about it.
We went and told everybody. Now you got less. You got the city and everybody’s on the telephone.
And we said, we got the money and we have a 330 call. The settlement. Guess what happened? We got a text at three o’clock that said the Strava team cannot be on.
So I didn’t understand. So I called back. So why aren’t we on? You can’t do it.
You can’t do it. I said, Reverend, why? He said, you can’t do it. You just can’t do it.
So he got I think he was drinking and he said the mayor said, just wait. He said, just wait. I said the mayor said that.
I will tell you something. They did because you cry. They stopped the deal and didn’t take the money and refused to tell us why they didn’t take it because they thought you’re dead.
You crossed him because I crossed him. And you want to know something? I want to say something else. Eric Sabree, the county treasurer and myself, my students, we got together to help save homeowners that were losing their houses.
Charlie, they were only going for $500 a piece. You understand what I mean? So we saved 200 houses, man. But Duggan had a rule in there.
No one in the United States got that. You got to pay your taxes two years in a row. And if you don’t pay it, you’re personally responsible.
It could take you to court and sue you. Now, no other municipality in the United States does this, but Detroit does under Duggan. So what happened, I had 20 people that didn’t pay.
Now, listen, we were only accommodating them. We didn’t buy the property. We had a computer and we were bidding.
You gave us $100 and we bidded on it for you. That’s all. And the county said, who does the deeds go to? It go to this, this, this person.
We’re not in the chain of title. I tell you what he did. They said you facilitated it and they sued us for $100,000.
Got the judgment, everything. How about this one too? And guess what? We heard about it. See, watch this host here.
Host, host, host. Okay, you’re the host. Don’t forget about the nuisance abatement program.
You got, you got some peeling paint and you don’t fix it up. Then we’re taking your house. Right.
If you don’t answer, you’ve defaulted. Yes. Right.
You got 180 days. You can’t get a loan to fix it up. They come take it anyway.
There’s a big fucking lawsuit going on with that. All kinds of stuff. Okay.
So let’s, but, but Charlie, can I say one thing? The bottom line is they got the judgment for $100,000 on my students and I, and, and we’ve, we, we got the taxes and got them all paid a hundred percent. And then they still got the judgment. And guess what? The city then sued their own lawyer.
So the city assumed that their lawyer and we’re sitting back waiting for the city and their lawyer to, before we can settle this, I I’m finished with that, but I just want to, and there’s a bunch of other stories, buddy. All right. So let’s do this.
Oh, by the way, I want to tease a new segment that we’re going to have at the end of the program. It’s it’s a, see you next Tuesday. You know, what’s happened on Tuesday.
Just stay with us. But the reason Herb and I got together, we talked a little bit a couple of weeks ago, the big, the Mount, the Mackinac policy pig fuck where the media and corporate interests and the politicians take over the grand hotel, lock out the public, eat oysters together, come rub each other’s back and put a little money in the campaign, hold a forum. The media prints it and we’re all supposed to love it.
That’s, that’s how it works. Wash, rinse, repeat. The big one’s going to be this Renaissance center deal.
That’s the subtext under it all. That’s, you know, rocket that’s Dan Gilbert. They’re sponsoring a lot of it.
Okay. So the Renaissance deal, I don’t get it. Now keep it simple for the people.
I don’t get this. Okay. GM owns the building, Greg, but Duggan’s going to put a billion into it.
Jim’s going to put 250 million into it. And we, the people are supposed to pay 350 million for a private redevelopment. And no, nobody else has been able to offer a proposal so far.
Correct. Well, is this correct? That is correct. Wow.
Okay. Well, it is a shocking thing. No, as a background, you know, the Renaissance center is the largest real estate development in the Western hemisphere and it represents Detroit’s image and for us, for it to come down would just break my heart for that building to come down.
I came back to Detroit to stop this, Charlie. See, I’m a capitalist and I’m like, I know what, it’s a good building by the way. Very sturdy.
Just been redone. Right. Take a walk.
Beautiful building. It is a beautiful building. Really gorgeous.
So again, where’s my… Somebody stole it. What you need there, buddy? My one share of General Motors stock. Oh, man, you’re going there.
That’d be, we get to vote. We get to vote. We get to sue.
But Charlie, look, this is very simple. Okay. This is very simple.
You have an alternative proposal, but you’re locked out of it. We’re talking hundreds of millions of public money, a private development. We’re supposed to fund it and they didn’t, this in the business is called request for proposal, right? RFP.
Then we’ll pick the best one. I haven’t heard of any. You got one? Go.
Right. You know, Charlie, God is good, you know, and he could put a person on the elevator at the right time. He’s the only person can do that.
And yesterday was a very fascinating day. Without going too far. I did meet an executive from Rocket and it was a fascinating discussion and they had some, one of the, one of the divisions and, you know, the main one probably, and there is hope that it may not be totally torn down.
If there is a, they’ve told me if there’s a viable proposal that Dan Gilbert wouldn’t want to tear it down just to tear it down, that there is hope. There’s a real possibility. When I left them, I couldn’t believe it because the general public doesn’t know that.
So I don’t want to go too far with it. But let me say this. Let me tell you what, what the uses that I would say that absolutely that I’ve been working on.
And I want to let you know, I’ve invested a lot of money in this year, not just a hundred grand, but a lot of money into it. Okay. I got the signatures to put it on the ballot to stop it, but I, it was not a perfected deal.
So I didn’t file it. I got a better idea. I hired game day university and I got with VD and, and, and I said, VD, I want to put it on the ballot.
And he said, the superintendent of Detroit public schools, he said, don’t put it on the ballot. Here’s what he decided to do. He called me up and said, I tell you what, he said, there’s 1600 homeless kids.
He said, if I could take one of those towers, I could take those homeless kids off the street right now. And they could be in dormitories. And, and, and then we, we could have a collegiate station, you know, it’d be a girl, a male and female floors.
And I loved it. And it’d be a governmental building locked down and you just can’t go and roam in that building or anything. And then the next tower, we went and got this was a game day university to gamify education.
And then we went to a major university and we said to them, if we gave you $150 million to renovate this into a high tech and put your, this is a, I would say though, but I cannot say they named it. So you cannot say who we are yet, but you would know who they are. They’re the board of the big university.
Let’s put it like that, that they would take the tower and we give them 150 million. So general motors for what? But to renovate it, to retrofit it, to use it as university property. Yes.
Okay. Now for that, for their students and technology and, and, and BD said he would do the same thing, but they do not have the cash. Okay.
Then another one is, this was interesting. A data center. They said the storage data center, but it’s a bad word.
So we call it that. Look, we’ve got to have it anyway. Let me get in for a freaking second.
So everybody knows what you’re talking about. Very sturdy. The Renaissance center.
I mean, that’s cement, right? A data center. Fully contained can soundproof it. Your generators are 600 feet in the air.
It’s not going to give you noise pollution on the ground. They need a lot of water. You’re on the Detroit river.
I mean, I’m listening to interesting proposal, homeless kids, high school dormitories. We already have a hotel there. That’s easy to retrofit infrastructures there.
You could take the whole thing, make all five towers, a data center. They, I know it’s a bad word and I don’t want one in my community, but there are places for them to be. Well, that’s why you just said the word.
You don’t want one in your community. And that’s why we’re not really calling the data center. But let me, your proposal is going to get killed.
But it, it’s, it’s on its own 40 acre footprint. There’s no neighbors around it. It’s next to the water.
It’s a proposal to think about. And nobody’s accepting proposals over there. I don’t understand it.
There’s only four of them in the world. This is a vertical data center. Four of them is in the world.
And we have the largest real estate development in the Western hemisphere. And we could take it. One of the towers become a storage data center, but I don’t want to say it like that.
I will. Let’s say it’ll, it’ll. Data center, data center.
Herb wants a data center. Okay, but this, this, it, it will be run by the, by a major university. That’s their new center.
And that’s their new technology engineering infrastructure as well. Right. Electric infrastructure.
You don’t have to like destroy a real community. Right. You don’t have to.
And what other condition for a vertical that you, you, you need to be in a high ecosystem. And with the bridge, the new bridge coming in all of the, oh my God. And General Motors, I tell you that General Motors is going to come back to the Renaissance center if we do it, because we have some of those floors.
They need to come back because they jet, they have failed miserably in their technology. They’re getting their brains cut out. And I understand that they took a billion dollar right off a couple of months ago because of their fail.
They failed in, in, in, in, in, in, in technology whatsoever in their cars. Yeah. And all of these foreign cars, they beating our brains out.
Now, let me do this. Let me just explain about the real estate here. Tell me, tell me when I’m wrong.
Okay. This is, I hope it’s cool for the audience. So we can test Charlie’s knowledge.
Okay. See if he knows what he’s talking about. Okay.
Do me a favor, Mark or Claudette, if we can show people, um, one Chicago square might just be called one Chicago now. Okay. Is that in Detroit? No, that’s in Chicago.
Oh, is this stuff new in Detroit? Okay. Let’s compare Gilbert’s debacle, this Hudson’s tower. And I suspect one of the reasons it’s beautiful to, to, to whack the Renaissance center is that’s the main competitor for available office space.
So just get rid of the competitor. So a lot of money, a lot of money going to Gilbert for that, right? 1.5 billion. They’re saying for that erector set, right? What is it? 12, 14 floors, the low block and the other one’s about 600.
But it is beautiful though. You know, I don’t buy. Okay.
But I gotcha. So Gilbert’s the Hudson’s tower is 1.5 million square feet. That’s what it’s estimated to be.
One Chicago square is 2.1 million square feet, 40% bigger. Right now, the, uh, the overruns Gilbert in total, the estimation is $1.5 billion. One Chicago square, which received no public money, 850 million.
So 40% cheaper and 40% larger. But how long ago was it built now? It was built in three years during COVID. Really? They got it done.
So all the bullshit about COVID, right? They locked in. See, they didn’t have solid blueprints when they started over there, right? They kept changing what they were doing. They didn’t realize it was an underwater river over there.
So again, they’re coming to us for the money that, go ahead. A billion and a half dollars, you said? And how many square feet? 1.5 million. So you’re talking about $1,000 a foot.
You said $1,000 a foot. Now, right now, if you’re going to build a high rise, you’ll pay about $350, $400. And if it’s $500, you lost your ass.
Well, I mean, the demand is hard. The demand right now on office is tough, man. It’s the toughest market in the world.
Some of the buildings come up, they converted them as they come up. And those thick plates, it’s hard to convert those now. To apartments, because of all the plumbing you need.
See, office, you don’t need that much plumbing. You got a bathroom there. This one’s going to be condos and a hotel.
But I don’t know what the pre- A lot of plumbing too, okay? So you got to be careful too now, because that’s much more. The cost of that would be more. Okay? Again, $1,000 a foot.
But let’s put it like this. At $500 a foot, you would think you could still do it at $500 a foot. How about $1,000? Now, that’s because you got all the public goodies, right? You get the tax capture.
Now, listen, you’ve got to create a gap. That’s what we call it in the real estate business. You’ve got your development fee and all.
Then you create a gap. Take your full fees, your full profits from construction, and your development fee, which is maybe 10%, 15%. And you got this gap.
You say, look at this. And then you go after the public money. Now, here’s what has happened, is that there’s been a lot of public money that Dandon got.
Now, let’s face it, they got most of it. They got more than half of all the money. So the city under Duggan, and somebody said that they may be related.
And we’ll find out if there’s proof of it in Mackinac, okay? Now, but the funds came from the city a lot, you know. But let me explain to you this here. I still support Dan Gilbert’s heart and his vision.
Peter Carmana is my partner. We sat down and was just planning how we’re going to get Dan in the city. We spent many hours at his office figuring how we’re going to get Dan.
And Peter really played a major role in bringing Dan in. He’s the one that really brought him in. And Dan has, to me, he’s put his heart and his soul in this city.
And that’s great. And I’m asking him to just be famous. Let’s just keep our Renaissance Center, buddy.
Let me tell you what’s going on. They just used the state of Michigan. The state of Michigan issued the bonds.
The reason Michigan did, they’re not on the hook for him. But there’s a tax-free component when it’s a state bond, right? So it’s attractive to private investors and banks that will buy these bonds. Gilbert, once he builds this shit, it’s called TIF, tax incremental financing.
Once he builds it, he gets the capture sales tax, property tax, et cetera, to sweeten the pot for him. Well, to pay the expenses. Right.
But now he’s front-loaded it through the state. They just sold bonds to private investors for that future gain because we need cash now to finish this. And to carry it, too.
Let’s think about this because when you started the development, it was one thing. But by the time you finish it, look at this market now. If everybody knew that it was going to be this market, you think they would have started these developments? If I could? Okay.
Post-pandemic, Chicago. That’s what I’m talking about. Okay, go ahead.
We have one Chicago Square now. Look, look at this. Oh, my God.
Look at that. That’s two towers. One is 900.
One is 600. Look how gorgeous that is. How’s that 850 in this 1.5 build? Now, let me tell you what’s happening in Chicago.
Commercial real estate selling for pennies on the dollar post-pandemic. Yes. Okay.
175 West Jackson Boulevard sold for $41 million. An 87% collapse. It sold for $306 million back in 2018.
303 East Wackers sold for $62 million, down 66% from $182 million in 2018. 600 West Chicago Avenue just sold for $89 million back in 2018. It sold for $510 million.
That tells a story. This plus demolition money, plus fire contracts are coming due, plus you’ve got a pension cliff. We’re in some deep straights, sir.
Yeah, but let me tell you something. The Detroit public schools get $9,000 per pupil. They would have plenty of money to run it.
I believe it’s more than that. No, it is a little bit more. I think it’s over 10, yeah.
It is. It goes up every year. I just wanted to sound like a wise guy.
That’s all. Right. It’s over $9,000.
Yeah. There is a fund for dormitories and all of that. They got it all identified.
VD asked me this. He told me this. This was not my idea.
This was Superintendent’s VD idea. He said it in Mackinac on the radio. It’s public information.
He says, I don’t have the money, but if you give me the money to renovate it, we’ll do it. Well, I mean, look, GM’s coming in and say they won’t take a profit. They’re coming in with $250 million on a building they already own to give it to another guy.
You could take that $250 million. And give it to the charity. You could give it to the schools.
You could demolish the whole building for that amount. And then you have 40 acres of property on the Detroit River. Any way you slice it, this deal makes no sense to me.
It’s not being explained to us. And it’s funny you’re stepping up saying, because you know what? I’m hearing out of you. Look at me.
I know the people of Detroit. I know them. And you’re talking about a campus for DPS, homeless kids, etc.
They would like that. That’s interesting. Let’s explore that.
Right? A major university in here retrofitting it for a quiet, out-of-the-way data center that creates jobs and actually brings revenue into the city. Right. Okay.
Oh, GM moving back, maybe. What’s going on with the Marriott? You don’t even hear. Did they re-up their lease? I think they’re definitely going to be set, because they will be even building more hotel rooms.
So I think that’s a winner. But they’re building one over where the Joe is. Right.
Charlie, let’s keep it real simple. There’s a lot to do here. If there’s $250 million, and you took the $250 million, made an educational campus that the major university would handle the storage data facility in that tower.
And it should be in Tower 400, because the sun comes up, and there’s an energy leakage problem. And you could do this quantum energy deal. And you could convert that.
Actually, it’s hydrogen. So the Tower 400 would be the data center that the university would … That university’s name would be on the top of it. And you could just about figure out which university almost.
But then the other one, the Detroit Public Schools sitting there, they would be in Tower 300. All right. We got it.
Any discussion? I will see you in Mackinac. Yes. Maybe.
Charlie, let’s go up in Mackinac together, you and I. We go in your limo? Yeah. I get the limo. I pull out the dumpster limo.
You want to know how good I am at money? Ben, you’ll be up there with me. With $30 million to dig up 600 holes? Or is it going to be $300 million to dig up 6,000 holes? I was a moderator at the Republican gubernatorial debate. I want Southfield to listen to this.
I want Detroit to listen to this. I always have your interests in mind. I think I found the money.
Watch this. I got the next one real quick. Look, nobody did a day in jail for Flint.
Somehow we fixed it. Somehow political criminals never go to prison. Now under Mayor of Detroit, Mike Duggan, we’re finding that Detroit was a victim of mass poisoning, contaminated dirt thrown in the holes.
It spilled over to Southfield, another county. The people there did not do that to themselves. They are the victims of their government.
Do you make a commitment to the people that I live with that you will come to their aid if elected? Charlie, I’m the only one on the stage. My man right there. He said yes.
Ralph said yes. Yes. Perry, yes.
Yes. 100. Then Detroit and Southfield, take a look.
Not getting traction. Borrowing you the money, not getting traction, Mike. We’re going to need the money.
So, you know, like, look at the representation we have, right? There’s only two places to get this money. It will be Lansing or it will be Washington. And we got a group of like federal representatives, like Sree Chanahar is always trying to impeach Trump, Rashida Tlaib is always crying on the White House steps.
Uh, Slotkin’s telling soldiers to disobey orders. We don’t have a really good relationship with the White House. So we’re going to have to go to the governor’s mansion.
And as soon as we’re ready, Ms. Benson, Mr. Swanson, Mr. Duggan, do you commit to cleaning up Duggan’s fuck up? It’s the only way. Yeah. Swanson.
He’s the Genesee County Sheriff. Oh, okay. Okay.
Old school Democrat. Don’t you remember him? It was during, during the summer of Floyd, right? And there was protesters and there’s a video clip of him like, y’all want to walk? You want to walk? Let’s walk. And he walks with them.
To me, that’s kind of powerful. You know, that, that, that is to his advantage and he’s run something. Charlie, I would like to say that those who are listening, they want to get involved and fight the good fight.
Can I leave a phone number for them? Is that right now, sir? 313-444-9691. And just call it, just say the good fight. The good fight.
Oh, Ren said that Ren said either one. 313-444-9691. Cause you just, you just want to get a little taste of like where the support might be.
Is that it’s not, that is that Detroit is not engaged enough, man. They people run our lives. I mean, they, they, they, they buy up.
Listen, we don’t, we own two gas stations out of 950. Who’s we, the black community. Okay.
My community. You see how he said that? He went like this. No, I mean, I’m just, you’re just being straight out, man.
Just running our restaurants and everything. Our psychology, our mind. We have, we have to have a different mindset here.
And like me, I’m willing to fight the good fight. Cause let me explain to you something. Oh, you got to find something you’re willing to die for.
You know why? Cause you’re going to die anyway. If you ain’t found something you’re going to die for, you’re going to die for nothing. Write that down.
Time code 56 fifties again, like 57. It’s pretty deep, dude. Now let’s, let’s just wrap this up with the, do we have a intro music for this? I just sprung it on.
See you next Tuesday. All right. Let’s do this real quick.
Uh, state Senator Mallory Manhattan, Mallory McMurrow, McMurder, who never, never saw a vote to hurt old people that she didn’t like. She deleted 6,000 email, uh, tweets in her preparation to run for us Senate. But you know, there’s something called the way back machine and CNN started looking and she’s tweeting a whole bunch of shit.
Like I hate Michigan fly over country. She was voting in California while living here. That’s not legal.
Um, do we, right? Yes. Oh, here’s, here’s her answer. So that one blows up.
I think the whole thing’s gone now, right? That thing blows up, but she goes on CNN to explain herself. It’s a two parter, right? Okay. See you next Tuesday.
Okay. So there were tweets of hers where you seem to take a jab at rural America. In 2016, a user posted quote, I’m from the rural Midwest.
All this talk about coastal elites needing to understand more of America has it backwards. You wrote in response to that user, this thread, I’m from rural New Jersey. This rings 100%.
So do you stand by that sentiment that rural parts of America can learn from coastal elites? I think we all need to understand each other better. Trump has succeeded in weaponizing us against each other, convincing us that we are each other’s enemies. Um, I’ve lived all over the country.
I’ve met a lot of different people and I stand by that. Was it the most eloquent tweet I’ve ever tweeted? No, I’ve tweeted thousands of times. Oh, you know who runs her campaign or her, her comms, Liz Smith.
She didn’t know her from New York. Liz is a cool chick. She was the one sleeping with Elliott Spitzer and then worked for governor Andrew Cuomo and was drilling all the chicks that were stepping forward.
So kind of like misogyny, you know what I mean? Like, where do you exist? Where’s the one about her voting? I want to dig a little bit deeper here because the K file report showed that you wrote in your auto 2025 autobiography that you quote relocated permanently to Michigan in 2014. But there are social media posts of yours where you describe yourself as a California resident in 2016. And the reason why this is an issue is because you posted, you voted in June 2016 democratic primary in California.
And I don’t need to tell you, but of course you’re required to vote in the state you’re a resident of. So why would you be voting in California two years after moving to Michigan? So we decided to move to Michigan in 2014. I was still working in Southern California.
My then boyfriend now husband was working in Michigan. Like a lot of millennials moving takes time. It was a two year process to finally settle in Michigan.
And I registered to vote in Michigan in August of 2016 and voted in the general election in November that year. But you wrote, you relocated permanently in 2014 and you also posted an Instagram post that you had moved out of California. And that was before the June 16th primary in that state.
Should you have voted in the 2016 primary in California? We still had our place out in Southern California. And as I mentioned, we had multiple jobs. Moving is ugly.
I wish we could have just up and moved in one fell swoop, but that’s not the case, just like it is for a lot of people. Because you had criticized a Twitter user in 2024 for voting in Michigan after moving to California. You called it illegal then.
Yeah, absolutely. If you are doing that intentionally after moving permanently to a place, that is illegal. But in our case, it was a two year process.
And when I was finally a permanent resident in Michigan, that is where I registered and that is where I voted. Okay. So it sounds like you shouldn’t have said you relocated permanently in your autobiography.
We made the decision to permanently relocate, but it does take time. And yeah, could have worded it a little bit differently. Oh my God.
What a fool. Okay. I’m, I’m Gen X, you know, and I moved back, you know, from California and like, cause I, I like fly over country.
I don’t know how Detroit’s rural, by the way, but, um, I, I think within the first week I changed my license, which, you know, you registered to vote, like what the fuck? Well, who has the luxury to take two years to move? Usually when you move, you got to be out, you know, 30 days or whatever. Right. Cause you sell a house.
Well, the thing is, where do you fucking sleep? It’s a lie. Where do you work? Yeah. It’s so dumb.
Um, by the way, she is my, uh, state senator. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her anywhere in our, in my district or around like events or anything. And they racially gerrymandered like the whole city again, because this is what.
She said people like her, right? We have the citizens redistricting board, which is, you know, basically it’s democratic operatives that got on there. They called Detroit, the voters of Detroit, 95% democratic. They call them wasted votes, wasted votes.
How fucking pejorative and condescending that is. Right. Because what they did was they took little spokes of Detroit, knowing that they’re democratic and went all the way into the suburbs.
So you can elect white women like this. And I’ve, I’ve seen her, she was in Detroit, racially gerrymandered. I saw her in Detroit one time brought by the state rep because he wouldn’t couldn’t find, you know, Nick Nichols and, and Greenfield if she tried, which is, I think her district, really? Yeah.
She’s I’m, she’s in my district. That’s how I get a wind of her. Um, she’d been here one time for cookies.
So how are you doing the people’s business with the things you’re talking about today, sir, are complex. And what we’re playing is dollhouse here takes millennials. You should be incensed that they like my generation’s dumb.
Takes me two years to move. Hey, Claude, you’re Gen Z. What do you think? It take you, you think it take you a two years to register to vote? No, no, she turned 18, uh, on voting day. She was able to figure out the system.
Will I be able to vote? When she does she vote on voters day? You can register before then. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
So she figured it out. Okay. I guess, I guess brain skips a generation.
Okay. Finally. Wait, two more.
Okay. See you next Tuesday. Election days on Tuesday.
Hey, uh, Rolls Royce, Joyce Benson, the secretary of state running for governor, and she will oversee her own election running for governor. I don’t know how that is, but this is from Mel. Everybody knows Mel Mullet.
Mel. Mullet. Mel wanted me to tell you, Jocelyn, that Paulie Morse, Paulie Morse.
This is his don’t forget to vote. Nope. You know what this is? This is his voter ID, his voter ID card.
Jocelyn, Paul hasn’t lived at this address in 30 years. Why is he still active to vote at Mel’s house? Three decades. What you’re doing is illegal.
You’re violating federal law. Now, finally, see you next Tuesday would not be see you next Tuesday without Cinco de Mayo in Detroit on a Tuesday, man. Now, if you’re listening, I’m going to have to narrate for you, but if you’re watching, this looks to me like River Rouge park, Gary, it’s going to be up there.
Oh, you got it over there. Okay. Now I want you to watch the dude with no shirt that gets mowed over.
I just want you to keep your eye on the dude. So fucked up on tequila that he didn’t even realize his legs don’t work. Okay.
And let’s roll it. Oh, damn. You got that.
Oh, wait, we’ll go back to flying like pinwheels. You see this herb? Yeah. Watch.
Well, on the right is the car. A couple of guys trying to stop a car and roll it. Oh, oh, see the guy with no shirt.
He’s out. See him. Yeah.
Keep your eye on him. This other guy’s getting out of the car. I don’t know what he wants to watch.
He’s, he’s going to Bruce Lee, the Bruce Lee. Okay. Keep an eye on the guy with no shirt.
He just got run over, right? He wants a piece of this. Oh, he gets in the car. No, the other guy, you got hit.
Why’d you get dropped? Oh, I heard they just found the body there the other week. Now there’s two. That was a double homicide.
And that is see you next Tuesday. And all you out there. We’ll see you next Wednesday.
Herb Stratton. Good luck. I’ll see you in Mackinac.
Thank you. Peace.
