No BS Newshour Episode #390
Kwame Part Deux?
“They were getting to know each other, but weren’t in a committed relationship while he had business before city council.”
So says a senior aide to Mary Sheffield, the odds on favorite to be Detroit’s next mayor.
EXCLUSIVE- A major scandal before she is presumedly elected to office next week.
The plot: Sheffield, then a city council member, jetted off with Detroit demolition contractor Brian McKinney as they were “getting to know each other.”
McKinney, who is accused of poisoning Detroit with toxic dirt, had business before the council.
Sheffield admits she voted on contracts and did not disclose their relationship in violation of the city’s Executive Order barring canoodling.
The climax? Stay Tuned.
PLUS- McKinney was a Duggan creation.
Mayor Mike Duggan took McKinney under his wing and made him a wealthy man.
McKinney, it is alleged, left poor neighborhoods impoverished.
If elected Mayor, what will Sheffield do about it?
NBN on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoBSNewshour
NBN on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-bs-newshour-with-charlie-leduff/id1754976617
NBN on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qMLWg6goiLQCRom8QNndC
Like NBN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LeDuffCharlie
Follow to NBN on Twitter : https://x.com/charlieleduff
Sponsored by Pinnacle Wealth Strategies and XG Service Group
TRANSCRIPT:
1
00:00:00,080 –> 00:00:00,440
All right,
2
00:00:00,440 –> 00:00:01,280
ladies and gentlemen.
3
00:00:01,280 –> 00:00:04,600
Now, I know a lot of you don’t like politics.
4
00:00:04,600 –> 00:00:06,160
Hey, man, I don’t like politics.
5
00:00:06,400 –> 00:00:09,920
And I especially don’t like Detroit politics.
6
00:00:10,960 –> 00:00:12,480
Just I want to turn off,
7
00:00:12,480 –> 00:00:14,400
but believe me,
8
00:00:15,600 –> 00:00:16,800
you want to tune in for this.
9
00:00:17,520 –> 00:00:18,160
I believe,
10
00:00:18,160 –> 00:00:19,920
see, there’s an election coming up for mayor next
11
00:00:19,920 –> 00:00:20,240
week.
12
00:00:20,400 –> 00:00:25,920
We may be approaching the era of Kwame part two.
13
00:00:27,040 –> 00:00:27,360
Oh, no.
14
00:00:28,240 –> 00:00:28,960
Jason Rowe,
15
00:00:28,960 –> 00:00:30,120
political strategist.
16
00:00:30,320 –> 00:00:31,920
Jason DeLorean Murray,
17
00:00:32,840 –> 00:00:33,480
good buddy of mine,
18
00:00:33,480 –> 00:00:35,920
he works at the Michigan Enjoyer with me.
19
00:00:36,040 –> 00:00:36,320
What’s up,
20
00:00:36,320 –> 00:00:36,720
brother?
21
00:00:36,800 –> 00:00:37,280
How you doing?
22
00:00:37,280 –> 00:00:38,160
Okay, you ready for this?
23
00:00:38,560 –> 00:00:39,040
Oh yeah.
24
00:00:39,040 –> 00:00:39,400
All right.
25
00:00:39,400 –> 00:00:40,880
Are your boys going to be listening?
26
00:00:40,880 –> 00:00:42,520
Oh yeah, we got all the hockey dads going.
27
00:00:42,520 –> 00:00:45,280
Let me give you the background,
28
00:00:45,280 –> 00:00:45,640
okay?
29
00:00:45,640 –> 00:00:46,960
I’m going to set this up,
30
00:00:46,960 –> 00:00:47,600
that’s coming.
31
00:00:47,600 –> 00:00:48,800
I got to give you the background.
32
00:00:49,920 –> 00:00:52,200
According to an ancient Buddhist proverb,
33
00:00:52,200 –> 00:00:55,440
there are three things that cannot long be hidden.
34
00:00:56,080 –> 00:00:57,680
The sun, the moon,
35
00:00:57,920 –> 00:00:58,800
and the truth.
36
00:00:59,440 –> 00:01:00,480
In the new Detroit,
37
00:01:00,640 –> 00:01:01,760
there is now a fourth.
38
00:01:02,400 –> 00:01:03,200
The dirt.
39
00:01:03,920 –> 00:01:06,920
The city has quietly put out bid requests to dig up
40
00:01:06,920 –> 00:01:10,360
and replace poisoned dirt used by a contractor to
41
00:01:10,400 –> 00:01:11,600
fill demolition holes.
42
00:01:11,680 –> 00:01:13,040
Stay with me on this.
43
00:01:13,920 –> 00:01:14,720
The contractor,
44
00:01:14,720 –> 00:01:15,600
Brian McKinney,
45
00:01:15,760 –> 00:01:18,840
was suspended from city work last month after an independent
46
00:01:18,840 –> 00:01:21,200
investigation alleged that his company,
47
00:01:21,360 –> 00:01:25,320
Guyenga, used contaminated soil from the old Northland
48
00:01:25,320 –> 00:01:28,880
Mall to backfill holes in Detroit neighborhoods where
49
00:01:28,880 –> 00:01:30,000
houses once stood.
50
00:01:30,400 –> 00:01:33,680
McKinney, who once served prison times for weapon and
51
00:01:33,680 –> 00:01:34,560
drug possession,
52
00:01:34,880 –> 00:01:37,280
has also been banished from the city’s wrecking board
53
00:01:37,520 –> 00:01:40,120
pending a final report from the city’s Office of the
54
00:01:40,120 –> 00:01:41,120
Inspector General.
55
00:01:41,600 –> 00:01:43,360
McKinney is appealing his suspension,
56
00:01:43,360 –> 00:01:44,080
remember that,
57
00:01:44,240 –> 00:01:45,120
he’s appealing it,
58
00:01:45,440 –> 00:01:48,560
claiming he got the dirt from a city-approved source.
59
00:01:48,800 –> 00:01:52,240
And now the whole sordid affair is starting to unravel.
60
00:01:53,440 –> 00:01:56,480
The Enjoyer and the No Bullshit News Hour has since
61
00:01:56,480 –> 00:02:00,320
learned that McKinney and the city’s demolition practices
62
00:02:00,640 –> 00:02:03,840
are now the subject of a sprawling organized crime
63
00:02:03,840 –> 00:02:04,800
investigation.
64
00:02:05,200 –> 00:02:07,840
We have also learned that the office of Mayor Mike
65
00:02:07,840 –> 00:02:10,720
Duggan has ordered the name and likeness of McKinney
66
00:02:10,720 –> 00:02:14,080
and his companies not to be mentioned or posted on
67
00:02:14,080 –> 00:02:15,760
the city’s social media accounts.
68
00:02:16,320 –> 00:02:18,800
And that’s a remarkable shift by his honor.
69
00:02:19,280 –> 00:02:22,000
disappearing the man he once touted at the State of
70
00:02:22,000 –> 00:02:25,200
the City address as the model of minority contracting.
71
00:02:25,600 –> 00:02:28,160
Now, McKinney donated to politicians,
72
00:02:28,320 –> 00:02:30,320
rubbed elbows with high society,
73
00:02:30,520 –> 00:02:33,520
and was even appointed to the board of the Detroit
74
00:02:33,520 –> 00:02:34,480
Institute of Arts.
75
00:02:34,880 –> 00:02:35,520
McKinney
76
00:02:36,160 –> 00:02:37,920
who’s a demolition contractor,
77
00:02:38,240 –> 00:02:41,200
rose so high in the world of fine art that he was
78
00:02:41,200 –> 00:02:44,880
named co-chair of the DIA’s 2024 Gala.
79
00:02:45,360 –> 00:02:48,320
In just a few short years under Duggan’s tutelage,
80
00:02:48,640 –> 00:02:51,680
McKinney also became fantastically wealthy,
81
00:02:52,000 –> 00:02:56,920
winning at least $64 million in city demolition contracts
82
00:02:56,920 –> 00:02:57,360
alone.
83
00:02:57,920 –> 00:03:00,240
Now, how far this goes is anyone’s guess.
84
00:03:00,560 –> 00:03:02,000
According to city records,
85
00:03:02,240 –> 00:03:05,760
McKinney’s company tore down approximately 2,500 houses
86
00:03:05,840 –> 00:03:07,040
in the city of Detroit.
87
00:03:07,400 –> 00:03:12,000
A randomly sample of 40 of those revealed that 80%
88
00:03:12,320 –> 00:03:14,880
were filled with toxic dirt containing things like
89
00:03:15,280 –> 00:03:17,200
arsenic, chromium,
90
00:03:17,440 –> 00:03:19,200
lead, mercury,
91
00:03:19,200 –> 00:03:20,080
and cadmium,
92
00:03:20,480 –> 00:03:22,160
among other potential killers.
93
00:03:22,800 –> 00:03:25,000
Now, the estimated cost of cleaning up just one of
94
00:03:25,000 –> 00:03:28,160
these sites is $60,000.
95
00:03:28,640 –> 00:03:29,520
At that price,
96
00:03:29,760 –> 00:03:32,720
the city might very well slide back into insolvency.
97
00:03:33,400 –> 00:03:34,760
On the city’s southwest side,
98
00:03:34,760 –> 00:03:36,160
which you will see in a moment,
99
00:03:36,480 –> 00:03:38,160
near the Marathon Refinery,
100
00:03:38,560 –> 00:03:41,120
is another hellscape created by McKinney’s company.
101
00:03:41,600 –> 00:03:44,240
At least a dozen structures were ground up and dumped
102
00:03:44,240 –> 00:03:45,040
in their holes.
103
00:03:45,440 –> 00:03:48,960
They remain there covered in plastic next to lots where
104
00:03:48,960 –> 00:03:49,840
children live.
105
00:03:50,880 –> 00:03:51,760
It’s so bad,
106
00:03:52,080 –> 00:03:53,920
Guyanga has been kicked off the job.
107
00:03:54,960 –> 00:03:56,400
You’ll hear from the lady who says,
108
00:03:56,560 –> 00:03:57,360
clean it up.
109
00:03:57,360 –> 00:03:58,960
I say, they forgot about you.
110
00:03:59,120 –> 00:04:00,320
She says, I guess so.
111
00:04:00,800 –> 00:04:02,800
I called Marathon whose job that was.
112
00:04:02,800 –> 00:04:04,400
This is Big Oil.
113
00:04:04,800 –> 00:04:05,760
Big Oil said,
114
00:04:05,760 –> 00:04:08,960
this guy’s so red hot that we got rid of him.
115
00:04:09,520 –> 00:04:10,800
We’re getting a new guy.
116
00:04:11,440 –> 00:04:12,640
He’s been suspended by the city.
117
00:04:12,720 –> 00:04:14,000
This is Marathon,
118
00:04:14,240 –> 00:04:15,920
who for 50 years,
119
00:04:15,920 –> 00:04:18,000
the residents have been complaining they’ve been poisoned.
120
00:04:18,120 –> 00:04:18,720
And they’re like,
121
00:04:19,920 –> 00:04:21,520
that’s a little bit poisoned too far.
122
00:04:22,720 –> 00:04:25,440
Go to the enjoyer.com and read the story.
123
00:04:25,520 –> 00:04:28,280
There was no doubt in my mind that the mayor and the
124
00:04:28,280 –> 00:04:31,080
city council knew about the grift in the demolition
125
00:04:31,080 –> 00:04:31,600
program.
126
00:04:32,240 –> 00:04:33,120
How could they not?
127
00:04:33,520 –> 00:04:35,040
I’ve been telling them for years.
128
00:04:35,280 –> 00:04:37,320
I sat in their offices and walked them through the
129
00:04:37,320 –> 00:04:38,080
documents.
130
00:04:38,240 –> 00:04:39,680
I wrote dozens of articles,
131
00:04:39,840 –> 00:04:41,600
did a dozen television reports,
132
00:04:41,680 –> 00:04:43,280
so did the other media outlets.
133
00:04:43,440 –> 00:04:45,520
There was a federal grand jury impaneled,
134
00:04:45,640 –> 00:04:47,360
a raid on the land bank authority,
135
00:04:47,640 –> 00:04:50,680
a years-long multi-million dollar Treasury Department
136
00:04:50,680 –> 00:04:51,680
investigation,
137
00:04:52,000 –> 00:04:52,600
and it all just
138
00:04:53,040 –> 00:04:55,040
disappeared under Joe Biden,
139
00:04:55,400 –> 00:04:57,120
a close friend of Mike Duggin’s.
140
00:04:57,520 –> 00:04:59,840
Now Biden is gone and Duggin’s moving on,
141
00:05:00,080 –> 00:05:02,640
but the people of Detroit are still here and so is
142
00:05:02,640 –> 00:05:03,280
the poison.
143
00:05:04,000 –> 00:05:07,520
Duggin’s demolition program is quite likely Michigan’s
144
00:05:07,520 –> 00:05:10,960
biggest environmental catastrophe of the century.
145
00:05:11,520 –> 00:05:12,640
But just like the sun,
146
00:05:13,360 –> 00:05:14,880
The truth is finally coming out.
147
00:05:15,200 –> 00:05:16,720
Now, I went with Ken Beck,
148
00:05:16,720 –> 00:05:17,360
my partner,
149
00:05:17,680 –> 00:05:19,440
and seeing is believing.
150
00:05:19,760 –> 00:05:21,040
If you are listening,
151
00:05:21,200 –> 00:05:23,120
you can go to any of my social media.
152
00:05:23,120 –> 00:05:24,880
You can go to enjoyer.com,
153
00:05:25,040 –> 00:05:26,400
any of their social media,
154
00:05:26,560 –> 00:05:27,400
and you can watch.
155
00:05:27,400 –> 00:05:28,120
Hit him, Mark.
156
00:05:32,080 –> 00:05:32,560
Good morning,
157
00:05:32,560 –> 00:05:33,040
neighbor.
158
00:05:33,680 –> 00:05:34,400
Come on in.
159
00:05:34,400 –> 00:05:37,920
I want to show you Mike Duggan’s demo awesomeness.
160
00:05:38,720 –> 00:05:40,400
It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
161
00:05:41,440 –> 00:05:42,480
If you don’t live here,
162
00:05:42,760 –> 00:05:45,880
I’m in southwest Detroit where Mike Duggan’s hand-picked
163
00:05:45,880 –> 00:05:50,120
and handmade demo guy was in charge of taking down
164
00:05:50,120 –> 00:05:51,440
all the old houses here.
165
00:05:52,320 –> 00:05:56,000
He never got to it because he got caught allegedly
166
00:05:56,240 –> 00:05:59,520
putting poison dirt from the Northland Mall into the
167
00:05:59,520 –> 00:06:00,560
holes in the city.
168
00:06:00,560 –> 00:06:01,640
Once that happened,
169
00:06:01,920 –> 00:06:03,280
they kicked him out of here.
170
00:06:04,240 –> 00:06:06,240
But he forgot to do a lot of stuff.
171
00:06:06,960 –> 00:06:07,600
Come along.
172
00:06:07,960 –> 00:06:08,520
I’ll show you.
173
00:06:09,040 –> 00:06:10,320
There’s a fixer-upper.
174
00:06:14,400 –> 00:06:15,440
That’s not done.
175
00:06:17,360 –> 00:06:18,480
That one’s not done either,
176
00:06:18,480 –> 00:06:18,960
Mike.
177
00:06:19,200 –> 00:06:21,520
And this must be the new community pool.
178
00:06:21,920 –> 00:06:22,880
That contractor,
179
00:06:22,880 –> 00:06:23,760
Brian McKinney,
180
00:06:23,920 –> 00:06:25,120
got really rich,
181
00:06:25,520 –> 00:06:28,320
and he rubs elbows in high society now.
182
00:06:28,560 –> 00:06:29,280
Show him, Ken.
183
00:06:31,920 –> 00:06:34,160
So Brian’s drinking high-end booze,
184
00:06:34,160 –> 00:06:36,560
and people in the neighborhood are drinking from the
185
00:06:36,560 –> 00:06:37,680
cup of bitterness.
186
00:06:37,760 –> 00:06:38,640
What is that?
187
00:06:39,280 –> 00:06:40,560
We used to be a house,
188
00:06:40,560 –> 00:06:41,760
but the job now,
189
00:06:41,920 –> 00:06:45,000
the mayor need to hurry up and come get this stuff
190
00:06:45,000 –> 00:06:45,120
up.
191
00:06:46,080 –> 00:06:48,680
People say he having accidents and everything.
192
00:06:49,280 –> 00:06:50,480
Yeah, come clean it up.
193
00:06:51,120 –> 00:06:53,600
Kids or some moron could get hurt in this thing.
194
00:06:54,000 –> 00:06:55,240
I don’t know what you’re complaining about,
195
00:06:55,240 –> 00:06:55,480
Barry.
196
00:06:55,480 –> 00:06:56,880
They threw some plastic over it.
197
00:06:57,240 –> 00:06:58,280
They ain’t doing no good.
198
00:06:59,680 –> 00:07:00,480
You think?
199
00:07:01,040 –> 00:07:02,880
And look at the new bike lanes.
200
00:07:03,200 –> 00:07:04,080
Come on.
201
00:07:05,280 –> 00:07:08,160
This playboy party boy wants to be let back on the
202
00:07:08,160 –> 00:07:08,520
job.
203
00:07:10,560 –> 00:07:11,520
My perspective,
204
00:07:12,800 –> 00:07:14,480
I want to let him sweep the sidewalks.
205
00:07:15,360 –> 00:07:16,640
Not that anybody is.
206
00:07:22,560 –> 00:07:25,440
Live from downtown Detroit,
207
00:07:25,680 –> 00:07:30,240
it’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man,
208
00:07:30,560 –> 00:07:31,920
Charlie.
209
00:07:35,520 –> 00:07:36,600
And Jaren Dumas.
210
00:07:38,200 –> 00:07:40,880
Assistant breaking this double or bullshit,
211
00:07:41,120 –> 00:07:42,000
double or bullshit.
212
00:07:44,400 –> 00:07:45,760
Before we hear from Luke,
213
00:07:45,800 –> 00:07:50,560
remember you should call him 248-663-4748 for sound
214
00:07:50,560 –> 00:07:51,600
financial advice.
215
00:07:51,840 –> 00:07:54,080
Luke Nowacki at Pinnacle Wealth Strategies.
216
00:07:54,560 –> 00:07:57,200
Is this the hole in one?
217
00:07:57,280 –> 00:07:58,880
It’s a hole in one,
218
00:07:59,000 –> 00:07:59,520
$50,000 if you hit it.
219
00:08:01,360 –> 00:08:01,680
Luke.
220
00:08:01,840 –> 00:08:05,040
Nowaki, Financial Wealth Management.
221
00:08:05,600 –> 00:08:07,440
What is 50 grand after tax?
222
00:08:10,880 –> 00:08:12,920
37,750.
223
00:08:13,000 –> 00:08:13,920
What about state tax?
224
00:08:14,440 –> 00:08:14,880
Yeah, that’s,
225
00:08:15,400 –> 00:08:16,880
I’m throwing both in there.
226
00:08:17,360 –> 00:08:18,400
What about sales tax?
227
00:08:18,560 –> 00:08:19,360
There’s no sales tax.
228
00:08:19,360 –> 00:08:20,160
Well, you’re buying the beer.
229
00:08:20,160 –> 00:08:20,560
It’s income.
230
00:08:20,640 –> 00:08:21,280
You’ll buy the beer.
231
00:08:21,760 –> 00:08:22,560
We write that off.
232
00:08:23,760 –> 00:08:24,480
Luke Nowaki.
233
00:08:25,480 –> 00:08:29,240
2486634748.
234
00:08:29,400 –> 00:08:30,520
Well, when it rains,
235
00:08:30,520 –> 00:08:31,320
the power goes out.
236
00:08:31,320 –> 00:08:32,600
And when the power goes out,
237
00:08:32,600 –> 00:08:33,600
the internet goes out.
238
00:08:33,600 –> 00:08:34,600
When the internet goes out,
239
00:08:34,600 –> 00:08:37,800
I call my friend Matt and Bernie at XG Service Group.
240
00:08:38,040 –> 00:08:39,800
Look at Bernie here on his hands and knees,
241
00:08:40,040 –> 00:08:41,400
giving it everything he’s got.
242
00:08:41,960 –> 00:08:43,160
Look at that man crack.
243
00:08:43,400 –> 00:08:44,280
So busy.
244
00:08:44,920 –> 00:08:45,960
He forgot to wear a belt.
245
00:08:45,960 –> 00:08:48,040
There’s Matt right there getting the board together.
246
00:08:48,040 –> 00:08:50,760
That’s 734-245-4100.
247
00:08:50,760 –> 00:08:53,600
If you need Matt and Bernie to come take care of your
248
00:08:53,600 –> 00:08:54,600
voice over internet,
249
00:08:54,760 –> 00:08:55,960
your security cameras,
250
00:08:56,120 –> 00:08:57,720
off-campus access control,
251
00:08:57,960 –> 00:09:00,360
Wi-Fi and cameras for homes and business,
252
00:09:00,360 –> 00:09:01,480
they’ll design it for you.
253
00:09:01,720 –> 00:09:02,560
You got restaurants,
254
00:09:02,560 –> 00:09:03,720
they do drive-thru systems,
255
00:09:03,720 –> 00:09:05,480
railroad cameras for public safety.
256
00:09:05,720 –> 00:09:09,000
Total wireless camera systems for your home and business.
257
00:09:09,240 –> 00:09:09,720
Yeah, that’s right.
258
00:09:09,720 –> 00:09:13,400
Call XG Services at 734-245-4100.
259
00:09:16,200 –> 00:09:16,600
All right,
260
00:09:17,240 –> 00:09:18,360
you ready for breaking news?
261
00:09:25,080 –> 00:09:27,720
I received at my home,
262
00:09:27,960 –> 00:09:29,320
addressed to my business,
263
00:09:30,360 –> 00:09:34,680
returned to sender to my home with a marking in red.
264
00:09:34,680 –> 00:09:36,200
It says, Important news,
265
00:09:36,200 –> 00:09:37,400
please read immediately,
266
00:09:37,480 –> 00:09:38,680
completely anonymous.
267
00:09:42,200 –> 00:09:42,840
This letter
268
00:09:45,000 –> 00:09:48,120
alleges what’s well known in Detroit political circles,
269
00:09:48,840 –> 00:09:50,440
that Detroit City Councilwoman,
270
00:09:51,160 –> 00:09:52,120
Mary Sheffield,
271
00:09:52,360 –> 00:09:54,440
who is the front runner to become the next mayor of
272
00:09:54,440 –> 00:09:56,440
Detroit next week,
273
00:09:58,200 –> 00:10:02,600
was having a relationship with this guy while he was
274
00:10:02,600 –> 00:10:05,800
getting contracts from the city that she was voting
275
00:10:05,800 –> 00:10:06,040
on.
276
00:10:06,440 –> 00:10:07,320
It alleges,
277
00:10:07,320 –> 00:10:09,240
and it has very specific dates,
278
00:10:09,480 –> 00:10:10,440
locations,
279
00:10:10,520 –> 00:10:11,400
hotels.
280
00:10:11,880 –> 00:10:12,520
This
281
00:10:13,640 –> 00:10:14,600
is unbelievable.
282
00:10:14,600 –> 00:10:21,000
Now, I reached out to Miss Sheffield’s people,
283
00:10:23,400 –> 00:10:26,120
and I’m just going to read you the string here.
284
00:10:26,320 –> 00:10:26,560
Okay?
285
00:10:26,600 –> 00:10:38,000
You find it right here.
286
00:10:38,000 –> 00:10:38,440
Okay.
287
00:10:39,560 –> 00:10:41,720
So I went to city council yesterday.
288
00:10:42,680 –> 00:10:46,520
He’s arguing over his suspension and wants back in.
289
00:10:46,800 –> 00:10:47,200
Diango.
290
00:10:47,400 –> 00:10:47,880
Yeah.
291
00:10:48,360 –> 00:10:48,880
And I’m like,
292
00:10:49,400 –> 00:10:49,880
oh, hell.
293
00:10:50,080 –> 00:10:50,840
Who decides that?
294
00:10:51,560 –> 00:10:52,440
City council.
295
00:10:53,320 –> 00:10:55,000
So interesting.
296
00:10:55,480 –> 00:10:57,200
So I sat there in city council.
297
00:10:57,200 –> 00:10:57,960
I said, God man,
298
00:10:57,960 –> 00:10:58,760
the fucking,
299
00:10:59,600 –> 00:11:01,000
don’t ever be a city council person.
300
00:11:01,000 –> 00:11:02,400
You know, got me kooks show up there.
301
00:11:02,400 –> 00:11:03,280
It’s crazy,
302
00:11:03,320 –> 00:11:03,640
Tom.
303
00:11:04,840 –> 00:11:06,040
Present company included.
304
00:11:06,760 –> 00:11:07,800
I tried to play cool,
305
00:11:08,880 –> 00:11:10,440
but they’re all coming up to me and I was getting
306
00:11:10,440 –> 00:11:11,480
yelled at by security.
307
00:11:11,880 –> 00:11:13,640
So I’m sitting,
308
00:11:14,600 –> 00:11:15,200
12 o’clock,
309
00:11:15,320 –> 00:11:16,040
Mayor Sheffield,
310
00:11:17,080 –> 00:11:18,280
up in the amphitheater.
311
00:11:18,640 –> 00:11:19,200
If you can see me,
312
00:11:19,200 –> 00:11:19,720
I can see her.
313
00:11:19,800 –> 00:11:21,960
So I texted her staff and I wrote,
314
00:11:22,520 –> 00:11:23,400
I’m in the building.
315
00:11:24,360 –> 00:11:25,640
If you have that answer.
316
00:11:26,840 –> 00:11:27,560
To which he wrote back,
317
00:11:27,560 –> 00:11:28,360
sorry about that,
318
00:11:28,360 –> 00:11:28,720
my man.
319
00:11:28,720 –> 00:11:30,120
What was the exact question?
320
00:11:30,120 –> 00:11:31,080
To which I wrote,
321
00:11:31,720 –> 00:11:32,360
Basically,
322
00:11:32,360 –> 00:11:34,680
did the councilwoman have a personal relationship
323
00:11:34,840 –> 00:11:37,800
with Brian McKinney while he had financial business
324
00:11:37,880 –> 00:11:39,080
before the council?
325
00:11:39,400 –> 00:11:41,000
Did she receive gifts,
326
00:11:41,320 –> 00:11:42,520
travel, lodging,
327
00:11:42,520 –> 00:11:43,320
food from Mr.
328
00:11:43,320 –> 00:11:45,400
McKinney during her time on the council?
329
00:11:45,960 –> 00:11:46,760
To which he wrote,
330
00:11:46,760 –> 00:11:47,000
got it?
331
00:11:47,000 –> 00:11:48,680
Let me try to get you a response.
332
00:11:49,320 –> 00:11:49,880
I wrote back,
333
00:11:49,880 –> 00:11:51,080
I have a hard deadline,
334
00:11:51,840 –> 00:11:52,840
which he wrote back.
335
00:11:54,120 –> 00:11:55,560
They were getting to know each other,
336
00:11:55,560 –> 00:11:58,840
but weren’t in a committed relationship while he had
337
00:11:58,840 –> 00:12:00,440
business before city council.
338
00:12:00,480 –> 00:12:00,920
What?
339
00:12:01,960 –> 00:12:02,960
What is that?
340
00:12:02,960 –> 00:12:04,840
Do we want to just chew on that one for a minute before
341
00:12:04,840 –> 00:12:05,160
going?
342
00:12:05,400 –> 00:12:06,280
Wait, let’s do that again.
343
00:12:06,760 –> 00:12:08,280
They were getting to know each other,
344
00:12:08,280 –> 00:12:11,480
but weren’t in a committed relationship while he had
345
00:12:11,480 –> 00:12:14,120
business before city council.
346
00:12:14,120 –> 00:12:15,160
There’s a term for that.
347
00:12:16,200 –> 00:12:16,520
Please.
348
00:12:16,760 –> 00:12:17,240
Fucking.
349
00:12:19,640 –> 00:12:20,600
Admirable spin,
350
00:12:20,640 –> 00:12:20,720
though.
351
00:12:20,720 –> 00:12:21,400
I mean, that’s.
352
00:12:22,680 –> 00:12:27,560
You are a political strategist.
353
00:12:27,560 –> 00:12:29,160
This fool forever be in your role.
354
00:12:29,360 –> 00:12:29,880
Did he though?
355
00:12:29,960 –> 00:12:30,360
Did he though?
356
00:12:30,360 –> 00:12:32,840
Because I would say by using the word relationship,
357
00:12:32,840 –> 00:12:35,080
it shows that they’re getting to know each other is
358
00:12:35,160 –> 00:12:35,960
part of a relationship,
359
00:12:35,960 –> 00:12:37,400
just not a committed one.
360
00:12:37,920 –> 00:12:42,200
It makes it seem a little less tawdry than how Jason
361
00:12:42,200 –> 00:12:42,720
described it.
362
00:12:44,400 –> 00:12:44,520
Okay.
363
00:12:45,000 –> 00:12:46,120
Well, that’s her people’s words,
364
00:12:46,120 –> 00:12:46,640
not mine.
365
00:12:46,640 –> 00:12:48,040
They were getting to know each other,
366
00:12:48,040 –> 00:12:50,680
but weren’t in a committed relationship.
367
00:12:51,240 –> 00:12:51,960
However,
368
00:12:53,240 –> 00:12:55,960
Because she had no pecuniary,
369
00:12:56,120 –> 00:12:57,000
could you look that up for me,
370
00:12:57,000 –> 00:12:57,240
Ken?
371
00:12:57,240 –> 00:12:58,280
What does that mean?
372
00:12:58,280 –> 00:12:58,920
Financial?
373
00:13:00,040 –> 00:13:01,000
Pecuniary,
374
00:13:01,000 –> 00:13:04,040
P-E-C-U-N-I-A-R-Y.
375
00:13:04,120 –> 00:13:05,240
That’s a $10 word.
376
00:13:05,360 –> 00:13:10,360
She had no pecuniary or financial interest in the contracts
377
00:13:10,600 –> 00:13:12,120
or matters before council.
378
00:13:12,760 –> 00:13:13,880
She was obligated,
379
00:13:15,320 –> 00:13:16,120
before council,
380
00:13:16,200 –> 00:13:19,640
she was obligated to vote when present.
381
00:13:20,120 –> 00:13:21,400
Because she had
382
00:13:22,440 –> 00:13:24,440
She couldn’t recuse herself,
383
00:13:24,640 –> 00:13:24,760
right?
384
00:13:24,840 –> 00:13:25,160
Financial.
385
00:13:27,000 –> 00:13:28,680
So, again,
386
00:13:28,680 –> 00:13:33,000
because she had a no financial or financial interest,
387
00:13:34,760 –> 00:13:36,640
trying to sound legal here already,
388
00:13:37,080 –> 00:13:37,800
pecuniary.
389
00:13:38,200 –> 00:13:39,080
OK However,
390
00:13:39,080 –> 00:13:42,200
because she had no pecuniary or financial interest
391
00:13:42,440 –> 00:13:43,640
in the contracts,
392
00:13:45,240 –> 00:13:46,520
not in the contracts maybe,
393
00:13:46,680 –> 00:13:48,040
not in the contracts maybe,
394
00:13:48,040 –> 00:13:50,920
but man, you know in relationships.
395
00:13:51,640 –> 00:13:52,040
Okay.
396
00:13:52,640 –> 00:13:53,400
In this town?
397
00:13:54,760 –> 00:13:56,200
The spokesperson’s worth his money,
398
00:13:58,360 –> 00:14:00,280
She was obligated to vote when present.
399
00:14:00,760 –> 00:14:03,640
It’s also important to note that during that period,
400
00:14:03,800 –> 00:14:09,040
largely due to concerns raised through reporting and
401
00:14:09,040 –> 00:14:11,440
ongoing challenges within the demolition department,
402
00:14:11,640 –> 00:14:15,800
she consistently voted to deny the majority of demolition-related
403
00:14:15,800 –> 00:14:16,440
contracts,
404
00:14:16,760 –> 00:14:17,560
including his,
405
00:14:17,840 –> 00:14:19,160
brought before the council.
406
00:14:20,040 –> 00:14:21,800
Okay, we’ll look into it.
407
00:14:22,840 –> 00:14:24,840
Take a word for it.
408
00:14:24,840 –> 00:14:26,040
I said, thank you for this.
409
00:14:26,040 –> 00:14:26,920
One other question.
410
00:14:26,920 –> 00:14:28,120
Can you confirm?
411
00:14:29,080 –> 00:14:31,880
They spent Easter weekend together at the Miami Four
412
00:14:31,880 –> 00:14:33,960
Seasons in 2019,
413
00:14:34,120 –> 00:14:35,560
in which he picked up the check,
414
00:14:36,280 –> 00:14:37,080
to which he wrote,
415
00:14:37,480 –> 00:14:38,120
I’ll check.
416
00:14:38,840 –> 00:14:39,720
I said, thanks.
417
00:14:40,120 –> 00:14:41,240
Again, I’m on deadline.
418
00:14:42,120 –> 00:14:42,680
Now, this is,
419
00:14:43,720 –> 00:14:45,320
I don’t know how you check this thoroughly,
420
00:14:45,880 –> 00:14:46,920
but apparently he checked.
421
00:14:46,920 –> 00:14:47,560
Here it comes.
422
00:14:48,840 –> 00:14:51,160
She doesn’t recall the specifics of the trip,
423
00:14:54,040 –> 00:14:56,040
which took place over six years ago.
424
00:14:56,040 –> 00:14:57,800
However, in our opinion,
425
00:14:58,040 –> 00:15:01,080
the details of her private life in this instance are
426
00:15:01,080 –> 00:15:02,120
inconsequential.
427
00:15:02,760 –> 00:15:04,520
Well, we’ll get to his reasoning.
428
00:15:04,680 –> 00:15:05,880
They’re not inconsequential,
429
00:15:05,880 –> 00:15:06,440
are they?
430
00:15:07,240 –> 00:15:08,040
You’re men of the world,
431
00:15:08,040 –> 00:15:08,800
you pay taxes,
432
00:15:08,800 –> 00:15:09,520
you’ve been around.
433
00:15:09,800 –> 00:15:13,160
Are the details of her personal life inconsequential
434
00:15:13,720 –> 00:15:16,960
when they run up into public contracting and the public’s
435
00:15:16,960 –> 00:15:17,320
health?
436
00:15:18,440 –> 00:15:19,400
I’d say it’s a big deal.
437
00:15:20,040 –> 00:15:22,480
And the fact that he’s trying to get his company back
438
00:15:22,480 –> 00:15:22,920
into trade,
439
00:15:22,920 –> 00:15:24,280
what else is he trying to get back into?
440
00:15:24,280 –> 00:15:26,440
The key word is public.
441
00:15:26,440 –> 00:15:30,040
She has a fiduciary responsibility to the public and
442
00:15:30,600 –> 00:15:32,280
that’s betrayed in this situation.
443
00:15:33,080 –> 00:15:36,040
Even the appearance of this shit from what we’ve been
444
00:15:36,040 –> 00:15:36,520
through, right?
445
00:15:37,000 –> 00:15:38,280
Remember the Kwame era?
446
00:15:38,960 –> 00:15:40,360
I mean, do we really need to go into it?
447
00:15:40,520 –> 00:15:41,640
All the relationships,
448
00:15:41,640 –> 00:15:42,440
the buddies,
449
00:15:42,440 –> 00:15:45,480
the rubbing elbows were flying around.
450
00:15:46,840 –> 00:15:48,280
are we about ready to get this again?
451
00:15:48,920 –> 00:15:50,920
I believe there was an Enjoyer headline back in the
452
00:15:50,920 –> 00:15:55,560
spring kind of notating this as the Coleman Young
453
00:15:55,560 –> 00:15:56,440
era 2.0.
454
00:15:57,400 –> 00:15:58,040
Could be.
455
00:15:58,200 –> 00:15:59,080
Well, no, I don’t know.
456
00:15:59,080 –> 00:16:00,840
I don’t want to talk about Coleman Young.
457
00:16:01,160 –> 00:16:02,280
You don’t remember it.
458
00:16:02,680 –> 00:16:03,400
We weren’t,
459
00:16:03,640 –> 00:16:04,520
we were kids.
460
00:16:04,760 –> 00:16:05,400
You know what I mean?
461
00:16:05,640 –> 00:16:06,600
We don’t know.
462
00:16:06,840 –> 00:16:08,680
This could be the Mike Duggan.
463
00:16:08,680 –> 00:16:10,040
This is the Mike Duggan era.
464
00:16:10,160 –> 00:16:11,400
This is the Kwame era.
465
00:16:11,400 –> 00:16:11,880
This is.
466
00:16:12,760 –> 00:16:15,080
Do you know that Detroit’s mayor in 1930 got kicked
467
00:16:15,080 –> 00:16:15,640
out of office,
468
00:16:15,640 –> 00:16:17,640
got recalled because he was mobbed up and clammed
469
00:16:17,640 –> 00:16:17,880
up?
470
00:16:18,160 –> 00:16:21,800
Do you know the mayor in 1942?
471
00:16:22,520 –> 00:16:23,880
I think it’s Richard Reardon.
472
00:16:24,280 –> 00:16:25,240
He went to prison,
473
00:16:26,120 –> 00:16:27,000
his sheriff,
474
00:16:27,400 –> 00:16:29,640
the prosecutors for taking kickbacks,
475
00:16:29,640 –> 00:16:30,280
Republican.
476
00:16:30,600 –> 00:16:32,440
Do you know Louis Miriani,
477
00:16:32,680 –> 00:16:34,680
the last Republican mayor of Detroit,
478
00:16:34,760 –> 00:16:36,840
went to prison in 1969?
479
00:16:37,240 –> 00:16:38,120
Couldn’t explain.
480
00:16:38,520 –> 00:16:42,560
How he had $250,000 in savings bond and is safe when
481
00:16:42,560 –> 00:16:43,880
he made twenty-five grand a year,
482
00:16:44,200 –> 00:16:45,360
then we get into Coleman.
483
00:16:45,552 –> 00:16:46,072
Young era,
484
00:16:46,232 –> 00:16:47,832
the Ed McNamara era,
485
00:16:47,992 –> 00:16:49,752
the Kwame Kilpatrick era,
486
00:16:49,912 –> 00:16:50,312
the Mike,
487
00:16:50,712 –> 00:16:51,832
like it’s our culture.
488
00:16:52,432 –> 00:16:53,432
I thought we were done.
489
00:16:54,072 –> 00:16:56,472
That’s what the national newspapers tell me.
490
00:16:58,312 –> 00:16:58,672
Fuck.
491
00:16:58,912 –> 00:17:01,072
And Mary comes from a politically connected family.
492
00:17:01,112 –> 00:17:05,112
That’s tied into all of the Democratic machine of Detroit
493
00:17:05,112 –> 00:17:06,632
politics for the last 50 years.
494
00:17:06,792 –> 00:17:07,432
Yeah, right.
495
00:17:07,432 –> 00:17:08,032
The Sheffields.
496
00:17:08,032 –> 00:17:08,232
Yeah.
497
00:17:09,112 –> 00:17:09,592
about that,
498
00:17:09,592 –> 00:17:10,232
like, okay,
499
00:17:10,312 –> 00:17:10,832
so you’re in the,
500
00:17:11,272 –> 00:17:13,792
let’s finish this and we’ll go back to like what your
501
00:17:13,792 –> 00:17:14,872
buddies are thinking,
502
00:17:15,192 –> 00:17:16,712
what they’re thinking around this,
503
00:17:16,792 –> 00:17:17,872
like, okay.
504
00:17:21,032 –> 00:17:23,872
She doesn’t recall the specifics of the trip,
505
00:17:23,872 –> 00:17:25,432
which took place six years ago.
506
00:17:25,512 –> 00:17:27,752
It did in fact take place six years ago.
507
00:17:27,832 –> 00:17:28,552
So that’s specific.
508
00:17:28,552 –> 00:17:29,032
By the way,
509
00:17:29,032 –> 00:17:29,432
by the way,
510
00:17:29,752 –> 00:17:31,432
allegedly on Easter weekend too,
511
00:17:31,432 –> 00:17:33,352
don’t most people remember Easter weekends?
512
00:17:33,392 –> 00:17:35,352
I mean, it’s not just a regular weekend.
513
00:17:35,352 –> 00:17:36,392
It’s a major holiday.
514
00:17:36,392 –> 00:17:36,792
Yeah.
515
00:17:37,432 –> 00:17:38,192
No, I looked it up.
516
00:17:38,192 –> 00:17:41,672
He got contracts on the 2nd of April.
517
00:17:41,672 –> 00:17:44,632
He got contracts on the 17th of April.
518
00:17:44,792 –> 00:17:47,032
He got contracts on the 23rd of April.
519
00:17:47,192 –> 00:17:49,432
And Easter was the 21st.
520
00:17:50,072 –> 00:17:50,152
Wow.
521
00:17:52,352 –> 00:17:52,472
Jeez.
522
00:17:52,952 –> 00:17:54,552
That was a hell of a family trip.
523
00:17:56,072 –> 00:17:57,192
However, in our opinion,
524
00:17:57,192 –> 00:17:59,832
the details of her private life in this instance are
525
00:17:59,832 –> 00:18:03,032
inconsequential because she did not have a duty
526
00:18:03,592 –> 00:18:07,352
to disclose or recuse herself from any vote based on
527
00:18:07,352 –> 00:18:12,232
the city’s ethics ordinance and the advice she sought
528
00:18:12,552 –> 00:18:13,352
and received.
529
00:18:13,592 –> 00:18:15,272
Now before we dive into that,
530
00:18:16,232 –> 00:18:17,992
Jason, longtime politico,
531
00:18:18,152 –> 00:18:21,912
you’ve been caught up in scandals in DC and out west.
532
00:18:25,352 –> 00:18:28,352
That spokesman might technically be correct about the
533
00:18:28,392 –> 00:18:29,072
ethics rules,
534
00:18:29,072 –> 00:18:31,832
which would be a pretty big hole in the ethics rules.
535
00:18:32,152 –> 00:18:35,352
But the spirit of what our expectations are for our
536
00:18:35,352 –> 00:18:39,392
elected officials to be voting on something and have
537
00:18:39,392 –> 00:18:41,632
that much influence on these contracts while she’s
538
00:18:41,632 –> 00:18:44,152
having an affair with them is something that she should
539
00:18:44,152 –> 00:18:47,832
have recused herself just based on her fiduciary responsibility
540
00:18:48,072 –> 00:18:48,632
to the city,
541
00:18:48,632 –> 00:18:52,352
but for the transparency of being a public elected
542
00:18:52,352 –> 00:18:53,592
official in that situation.
543
00:18:53,592 –> 00:18:53,832
Well, now,
544
00:18:53,992 –> 00:18:55,512
it wasn’t a committed relationship.
545
00:18:55,832 –> 00:18:57,032
No, they were just fucking.
546
00:18:57,752 –> 00:18:58,312
Allegedly,
547
00:18:58,312 –> 00:19:00,072
well, getting to know each other.
548
00:19:00,072 –> 00:19:01,112
That’s euphemism,
549
00:19:01,112 –> 00:19:01,232
okay?
550
00:19:01,272 –> 00:19:02,232
Getting to know each other.
551
00:19:02,792 –> 00:19:03,752
We’ll go with what they say.
552
00:19:05,192 –> 00:19:06,632
So much money.
553
00:19:06,632 –> 00:19:07,752
There is there.
554
00:19:07,752 –> 00:19:08,552
It’s a question.
555
00:19:09,352 –> 00:19:11,672
Because you cover for the enjoyer very well,
556
00:19:11,672 –> 00:19:12,232
I might say.
557
00:19:12,632 –> 00:19:13,112
Really well.
558
00:19:13,112 –> 00:19:14,072
I appreciate that.
559
00:19:14,072 –> 00:19:15,352
Yeah, it’s amazing.
560
00:19:15,432 –> 00:19:16,712
Quickly, you’ve learned this business.
561
00:19:17,592 –> 00:19:21,032
You do a lot of work in the western portion of the
562
00:19:21,032 –> 00:19:22,112
metro area,
563
00:19:22,112 –> 00:19:23,592
which is the money.
564
00:19:24,112 –> 00:19:25,832
It’s very like Livonia,
565
00:19:26,232 –> 00:19:27,192
Northville,
566
00:19:27,272 –> 00:19:28,792
Novi, the guys in,
567
00:19:29,032 –> 00:19:29,312
right?
568
00:19:29,752 –> 00:19:31,112
Is there an ennui,
569
00:19:31,112 –> 00:19:32,632
a tiredness of,
570
00:19:33,752 –> 00:19:34,072
you know,
571
00:19:34,072 –> 00:19:35,592
if we got to clean these holes up,
572
00:19:35,832 –> 00:19:37,432
Troy’s broke.
573
00:19:37,512 –> 00:19:42,232
Yes, because the suburbs are consistently yearly,
574
00:19:42,472 –> 00:19:45,432
feels like annually going back well over a decade
575
00:19:45,432 –> 00:19:49,432
now, we’re being asked to fund this through various,
576
00:19:49,512 –> 00:19:50,152
you know,
577
00:19:51,752 –> 00:19:54,792
shady tax deals and all sorts of things.
578
00:19:54,792 –> 00:19:58,152
We’re picking up the pension payments because we went
579
00:19:58,152 –> 00:19:59,432
bust the last time,
580
00:19:59,672 –> 00:20:01,512
the pensions for the bus drivers.
581
00:20:01,632 –> 00:20:04,632
Distribution of wealth from the suburbs and the city.
582
00:20:04,792 –> 00:20:07,272
It even goes into the public schooling when we were
583
00:20:07,272 –> 00:20:08,952
continuously asked to vote.
584
00:20:09,592 –> 00:20:12,952
to have our taxes sent down into Detroit.
585
00:20:12,952 –> 00:20:14,712
So yeah, it’s a tiresome thing.
586
00:20:14,712 –> 00:20:15,992
You hear about this stuff like this,
587
00:20:16,152 –> 00:20:18,032
especially if you’re a lifelong Metro Detroit or you’ve
588
00:20:18,032 –> 00:20:21,112
been in Livonia or Northville or Novi for your whole
589
00:20:21,112 –> 00:20:21,592
life.
590
00:20:21,752 –> 00:20:23,632
So this is a tired old trope at this point.
591
00:20:23,632 –> 00:20:25,032
You’re consistently seeing this.
592
00:20:25,032 –> 00:20:25,992
There’s never any,
593
00:20:26,472 –> 00:20:29,112
there’s nothing ever becomes clean down here.
594
00:20:29,592 –> 00:20:31,992
to the degree that we see where our money is going,
595
00:20:32,552 –> 00:20:34,552
we keep getting asked for it over and over again.
596
00:20:34,712 –> 00:20:35,192
Because these,
597
00:20:35,352 –> 00:20:38,072
like the Tiger Stadium is county funded.
598
00:20:38,232 –> 00:20:39,312
That’s not just Detroit.
599
00:20:39,352 –> 00:20:40,152
You know, it’s like,
600
00:20:40,632 –> 00:20:43,032
how does this play in Lansing?
601
00:20:43,552 –> 00:20:44,152
Jason Rowe,
602
00:20:44,152 –> 00:20:45,312
political strategist.
603
00:20:45,312 –> 00:20:48,352
Well, I think one thing I think we’re burying the lead
604
00:20:48,352 –> 00:20:51,552
a little bit and what’s going to really resonate with
605
00:20:51,632 –> 00:20:53,192
Lansing is
606
00:20:53,992 –> 00:20:58,152
Toxic dirt has been spread throughout the city of Detroit
607
00:20:58,152 –> 00:21:00,552
in the poorest city in this state.
608
00:21:01,192 –> 00:21:04,872
Just had a bunch of toxic dirt dumped on every block,
609
00:21:04,872 –> 00:21:05,992
probably in the city,
610
00:21:05,992 –> 00:21:07,512
given the number of houses that you said,
611
00:21:07,672 –> 00:21:08,712
2,500.
612
00:21:08,712 –> 00:21:11,032
Well, Duggan’s like liking to tell the national media
613
00:21:11,032 –> 00:21:12,392
it’s 47,000,
614
00:21:12,392 –> 00:21:13,752
but you look at the city’s website,
615
00:21:13,752 –> 00:21:14,792
you listen to cranes,
616
00:21:14,792 –> 00:21:15,032
right?
617
00:21:15,432 –> 00:21:16,512
It’s 30,000.
618
00:21:16,512 –> 00:21:17,392
Does it matter at this point?
619
00:21:17,512 –> 00:21:20,392
This is the biggest landfill in Michigan.
620
00:21:20,472 –> 00:21:23,792
80% of the 40 homes or lots that were
621
00:21:23,992 –> 00:21:27,592
tested, 33 of the 40,
622
00:21:27,592 –> 00:21:29,752
80% of them had toxic dirt.
623
00:21:29,832 –> 00:21:31,512
That’s bigger than Flint.
624
00:21:31,992 –> 00:21:34,392
That’s bigger than anything we’ve seen if this bears
625
00:21:34,392 –> 00:21:34,552
out.
626
00:21:35,272 –> 00:21:37,512
And so nobody ever goes,
627
00:21:37,592 –> 00:21:39,272
nobody from Northville,
628
00:21:39,432 –> 00:21:41,112
nobody from the Washington Post,
629
00:21:41,352 –> 00:21:43,192
nobody from the Daily Mail,
630
00:21:43,512 –> 00:21:45,192
nobody anywhere,
631
00:21:45,192 –> 00:21:47,912
nobody from city council goes to the neighborhood
632
00:21:47,912 –> 00:21:49,272
and actually looks.
633
00:21:50,632 –> 00:21:52,952
Getting white liberals from the suburbs to come into
634
00:21:52,952 –> 00:21:54,392
Detroit to look at these things,
635
00:21:54,392 –> 00:21:55,592
to actually pay attention,
636
00:21:55,832 –> 00:21:57,032
it’s like pulling teeth.
637
00:21:57,032 –> 00:21:58,152
They won’t do it.
638
00:21:59,032 –> 00:21:59,512
Okay.
639
00:22:00,152 –> 00:22:02,312
Their representatives are black Democrats,
640
00:22:02,552 –> 00:22:02,952
you know,
641
00:22:03,272 –> 00:22:04,472
a Latina Democrat.
642
00:22:04,512 –> 00:22:05,672
Where are you?
643
00:22:06,312 –> 00:22:07,272
Exactly.
644
00:22:07,352 –> 00:22:11,032
I said, and there’s video of me going through Duggan
645
00:22:11,032 –> 00:22:11,632
in the beginning.
646
00:22:12,632 –> 00:22:13,352
And meanwhile,
647
00:22:13,352 –> 00:22:14,072
and meanwhile,
648
00:22:14,192 –> 00:22:15,432
and Ken can attest to this,
649
00:22:15,592 –> 00:22:18,352
we’ll go into Brightmore and do investigative reporting
650
00:22:18,352 –> 00:22:18,792
in there.
651
00:22:19,352 –> 00:22:22,072
And you see these empty lots with dirt piles of dirt
652
00:22:22,072 –> 00:22:22,472
lining up.
653
00:22:22,472 –> 00:22:24,152
Did that dirt come from Northland?
654
00:22:24,152 –> 00:22:26,232
And we saw little kids out there on the street playing
655
00:22:26,232 –> 00:22:26,872
right in front of it.
656
00:22:27,032 –> 00:22:27,752
Oh, the kids.
657
00:22:28,912 –> 00:22:29,512
The kids.
658
00:22:30,072 –> 00:22:30,552
Isn’t this…
659
00:22:30,832 –> 00:22:32,152
Okay, let’s continue with this.
660
00:22:32,952 –> 00:22:33,752
So tiring,
661
00:22:33,752 –> 00:22:34,152
man.
662
00:22:35,112 –> 00:22:35,432
Okay.
663
00:22:38,712 –> 00:22:41,072
She did not have a duty to disclose or recuse herself
664
00:22:41,072 –> 00:22:44,232
from any vote based on the city’s ethics ordinance
665
00:22:44,392 –> 00:22:46,152
and advice she sought and received.
666
00:22:46,152 –> 00:22:46,552
Okay.
667
00:22:47,512 –> 00:22:49,032
Then, a couple minutes later,
668
00:22:49,112 –> 00:22:51,352
hey man, I give it,
669
00:22:51,512 –> 00:22:53,072
hey man, get some digging,
670
00:22:53,072 –> 00:22:53,992
no pun intended.
671
00:22:55,592 –> 00:22:56,312
He, that you’re,
672
00:22:56,632 –> 00:22:57,592
you saying that or he,
673
00:22:57,672 –> 00:22:58,392
did he say?
674
00:22:58,432 –> 00:22:58,952
Yeah, her people.
675
00:22:59,512 –> 00:23:01,512
Hey man, after doing some digging.
676
00:23:01,992 –> 00:23:04,472
And researching her votes during that time,
677
00:23:05,032 –> 00:23:06,152
I now recall,
678
00:23:06,712 –> 00:23:07,192
well, wait,
679
00:23:07,192 –> 00:23:07,992
you researched your vote.
680
00:23:07,992 –> 00:23:09,272
So no recalls data,
681
00:23:09,272 –> 00:23:10,312
not recollections.
682
00:23:10,632 –> 00:23:13,832
I now recall out of abundance of caution,
683
00:23:14,072 –> 00:23:17,192
and since she was advised of her obligation to cast
684
00:23:17,192 –> 00:23:17,672
a vote.
685
00:23:19,272 –> 00:23:20,152
So you have to,
686
00:23:21,112 –> 00:23:22,712
you are getting to know each other.
687
00:23:23,912 –> 00:23:24,872
But it’s not,
688
00:23:24,872 –> 00:23:25,352
you know,
689
00:23:26,232 –> 00:23:26,912
solidified.
690
00:23:26,912 –> 00:23:28,552
We took a trip,
691
00:23:29,112 –> 00:23:30,272
but I’m obligated.
692
00:23:31,032 –> 00:23:32,512
I’m absolutely obligated.
693
00:23:32,512 –> 00:23:33,352
I got a vote here.
694
00:23:33,512 –> 00:23:39,432
And she made the decision to vote to deny all of his
695
00:23:39,432 –> 00:23:40,232
contracts.
696
00:23:40,712 –> 00:23:41,192
All.
697
00:23:42,232 –> 00:23:44,712
Is that from 2016 to present?
698
00:23:45,192 –> 00:23:46,552
Was it around Easter?
699
00:23:48,392 –> 00:23:49,632
There’s no record online,
700
00:23:49,632 –> 00:23:50,992
the way it works in city council,
701
00:23:50,992 –> 00:23:51,952
the contracts come up,
702
00:23:52,232 –> 00:23:53,832
and unless they take a roll call,
703
00:23:54,232 –> 00:23:55,352
seeing no objections,
704
00:23:55,352 –> 00:23:56,152
it gets passed.
705
00:23:57,192 –> 00:23:58,792
There’s no record and no objections.
706
00:23:58,952 –> 00:24:01,352
We will be getting on this.
707
00:24:01,592 –> 00:24:05,432
I will be talking to my dynamite friend over at the
708
00:24:05,432 –> 00:24:08,872
Detroit Free Press and the star of the soul of Detroit,
709
00:24:08,872 –> 00:24:09,672
Emma Elric,
710
00:24:10,272 –> 00:24:13,112
and we will team up and we will start excavating,
711
00:24:13,432 –> 00:24:14,552
pun intended.
712
00:24:15,352 –> 00:24:16,232
Pun intended.
713
00:24:16,872 –> 00:24:19,992
Okay, so let’s go back here a second.
714
00:24:19,992 –> 00:24:21,352
Go ahead while I’m looking,
715
00:24:22,152 –> 00:24:22,792
chip in here.
716
00:24:22,792 –> 00:24:26,152
The implications for Duggan are extraordinary as well,
717
00:24:26,872 –> 00:24:28,312
because he’s a Livonia guy,
718
00:24:29,032 –> 00:24:30,152
mayor of Detroit,
719
00:24:30,312 –> 00:24:31,512
he’s running for governor.
720
00:24:31,672 –> 00:24:34,632
He needs the voters of the suburban area.
721
00:24:34,632 –> 00:24:38,792
So this type of scandal is deleterious to his efforts.
722
00:24:38,952 –> 00:24:40,872
You know, this should be explored more.
723
00:24:40,872 –> 00:24:42,872
What’s going on while he was mayor,
724
00:24:43,352 –> 00:24:43,552
you know,
725
00:24:43,552 –> 00:24:44,632
and now he’s
726
00:24:44,872 –> 00:24:49,192
chasing votes into the suburban areas where Detroit
727
00:24:49,192 –> 00:24:50,872
is asking for more money,
728
00:24:51,392 –> 00:24:53,512
and they’re in if when Mary Sheffield wins,
729
00:24:53,512 –> 00:24:54,232
undoubtedly,
730
00:24:54,392 –> 00:24:56,832
she’s going to be asking for more money via entertainment
731
00:24:56,832 –> 00:25:00,712
taxes and whatever ordinances and regulations,
732
00:25:00,712 –> 00:25:01,312
for example,
733
00:25:01,312 –> 00:25:02,112
like what she just,
734
00:25:02,392 –> 00:25:02,592
you know,
735
00:25:02,592 –> 00:25:05,512
what they just put in last week with the Zen bans,
736
00:25:05,912 –> 00:25:09,912
they’re going to be using every means possible to
737
00:25:09,912 –> 00:25:10,472
pull more
738
00:25:10,552 –> 00:25:11,872
money out of the suburbs.
739
00:25:12,672 –> 00:25:13,872
Well, and I’ll tell you the problem is,
740
00:25:13,912 –> 00:25:16,392
I mean, this should impact the mayor’s race,
741
00:25:16,392 –> 00:25:18,112
which is not even a week away.
742
00:25:18,832 –> 00:25:20,512
She’s got a 51 point lead.
743
00:25:20,512 –> 00:25:22,192
Kinloch’s not up to it.
744
00:25:22,672 –> 00:25:23,552
This should,
745
00:25:23,552 –> 00:25:25,432
I mean, it’ll be interesting to see what the mainstream
746
00:25:25,432 –> 00:25:26,032
media does.
747
00:25:26,032 –> 00:25:28,752
Do they pick this up and make this something to talk
748
00:25:28,752 –> 00:25:29,152
about?
749
00:25:29,152 –> 00:25:31,392
Because the city’s going to be dealing with it,
750
00:25:31,632 –> 00:25:32,832
with her as mayor.
751
00:25:33,312 –> 00:25:35,872
And if the media doesn’t do their job and inform the
752
00:25:35,872 –> 00:25:37,712
voters between now and Tuesday,
753
00:25:38,112 –> 00:25:39,872
and then this becomes a bigger scandal,
754
00:25:39,872 –> 00:25:43,512
the media is going to be a co-conspirator in covering
755
00:25:43,512 –> 00:25:43,792
it up.
756
00:25:44,552 –> 00:25:45,232
My opinion.
757
00:25:46,152 –> 00:25:47,112
Since COVID,
758
00:25:47,112 –> 00:25:47,272
they are.
759
00:25:47,272 –> 00:25:48,312
Before COVID,
760
00:25:48,312 –> 00:25:48,992
you Google it.
761
00:25:49,312 –> 00:25:51,792
Everybody was doing stories on this.
762
00:25:52,192 –> 00:25:54,672
And then Biden gets in and COVID comes and it goes
763
00:25:54,672 –> 00:25:54,912
away.
764
00:25:55,072 –> 00:25:57,712
And we magically redo the demo department and nobody
765
00:25:57,712 –> 00:25:58,552
watches anymore.
766
00:25:58,752 –> 00:26:02,032
And everybody is refusing to look after the people
767
00:26:02,032 –> 00:26:02,472
of Detroit,
768
00:26:02,472 –> 00:26:03,952
which is our responsibility.
769
00:26:04,032 –> 00:26:05,872
Now, having said this,
770
00:26:07,872 –> 00:26:08,592
Her people write,
771
00:26:08,592 –> 00:26:10,912
she did not have a duty to disclose or recuse herself
772
00:26:11,152 –> 00:26:14,032
from any vote based on the city’s ethics ordinance
773
00:26:14,192 –> 00:26:15,832
and advice she sought and received.
774
00:26:16,112 –> 00:26:17,712
Well, I don’t believe that.
775
00:26:17,712 –> 00:26:18,912
We will be looking into it,
776
00:26:19,152 –> 00:26:20,592
but I’m going to call Mark Naida,
777
00:26:21,232 –> 00:26:23,672
the executive editor of the Michigan Enjoy,
778
00:26:23,712 –> 00:26:24,592
which by the way,
779
00:26:24,592 –> 00:26:27,472
I don’t know about television websites,
780
00:26:28,112 –> 00:26:32,192
but in one year we’ve become the fifth largest news
781
00:26:32,192 –> 00:26:34,912
outlet in the state of Michigan and the number one
782
00:26:34,992 –> 00:26:36,192
video news outlet.
783
00:26:37,952 –> 00:26:38,912
Thanks very much to you,
784
00:26:38,912 –> 00:26:39,272
Charlie.
785
00:26:39,272 –> 00:26:39,832
Congratulations.
786
00:26:39,872 –> 00:26:40,512
You too.
787
00:26:40,752 –> 00:26:41,392
And Naida.
788
00:26:41,392 –> 00:26:42,992
Naida is a smart young man.
789
00:26:43,152 –> 00:26:44,752
So let me look him up.
790
00:26:45,232 –> 00:26:46,272
Best editor there is.
791
00:26:47,232 –> 00:26:49,072
I think you’re right.
792
00:26:49,272 –> 00:26:50,232
He shines it up good.
793
00:26:50,232 –> 00:26:50,672
Let me…
794
00:26:51,152 –> 00:26:51,592
No, mine.
795
00:26:51,592 –> 00:26:52,432
Don’t touch mine shit.
796
00:26:52,432 –> 00:26:53,952
Just make sure it’s legal,
797
00:26:53,952 –> 00:26:54,512
motherfucker.
798
00:26:55,272 –> 00:26:56,512
He fixes my spelling errors.
799
00:26:57,752 –> 00:26:58,672
It’s called spell check,
800
00:26:58,792 –> 00:26:59,152
Dodo.
801
00:27:00,192 –> 00:27:00,392
Okay.
802
00:27:00,752 –> 00:27:01,712
And our high tech.
803
00:27:02,152 –> 00:27:02,992
Let’s plug him in.
804
00:27:02,992 –> 00:27:06,032
I’ll call him and put him on speaker.
805
00:27:10,752 –> 00:27:11,552
We go, can you hear that?
806
00:27:13,552 –> 00:27:14,272
This is Mark.
807
00:27:14,672 –> 00:27:15,472
Mark who?
808
00:27:15,712 –> 00:27:16,592
And of what outlet,
809
00:27:16,592 –> 00:27:17,072
please?
810
00:27:18,192 –> 00:27:18,992
Mark Nida,
811
00:27:19,072 –> 00:27:19,952
Michigan Enjoyer.
812
00:27:21,472 –> 00:27:23,872
Sir, before air,
813
00:27:23,872 –> 00:27:27,072
I asked you to look up the ethics ordinance and you
814
00:27:27,072 –> 00:27:28,512
told me what?
815
00:27:30,272 –> 00:27:31,632
Well, we found it.
816
00:27:32,192 –> 00:27:33,232
You know, there…
817
00:27:34,232 –> 00:27:37,832
Dave Bing had to clean up a little bit of a mess on
818
00:27:37,832 –> 00:27:40,992
the ethics front when he became mayor of Detroit.
819
00:27:40,992 –> 00:27:45,232
And in November 1st of 2012,
820
00:27:45,712 –> 00:27:49,872
he signed an executive order stating the following.
821
00:27:50,512 –> 00:27:52,112
Personal relationships,
822
00:27:52,112 –> 00:27:54,912
especially between supervisors and subordinates,
823
00:27:55,232 –> 00:27:58,192
may undermine the sound operation of city functions
824
00:27:58,672 –> 00:28:01,472
due to creating the appearance of favoritism in employment
825
00:28:01,472 –> 00:28:01,952
decisions,
826
00:28:01,952 –> 00:28:03,392
loss of employee morale,
827
00:28:03,712 –> 00:28:06,752
interference with the functioning of supervisory subordinate
828
00:28:06,752 –> 00:28:07,472
relationships,
829
00:28:07,912 –> 00:28:10,032
and allegations of sexual harassment.
830
00:28:10,832 –> 00:28:13,712
Now, deep within this executive order,
831
00:28:14,832 –> 00:28:17,952
there is a point that any employee,
832
00:28:17,952 –> 00:28:19,952
as defined in this executive order,
833
00:28:20,272 –> 00:28:23,712
who exercises significant authority over a contract,
834
00:28:24,432 –> 00:28:26,952
is permitted from having a personal relationship with
835
00:28:26,952 –> 00:28:27,672
the contractor.
836
00:28:27,672 –> 00:28:28,232
Prohibited,
837
00:28:28,232 –> 00:28:28,592
you mean?
838
00:28:29,312 –> 00:28:30,152
Prohibited.
839
00:28:30,152 –> 00:28:30,512
Okay.
840
00:28:31,792 –> 00:28:34,032
Or any person who provides goods or services to the
841
00:28:34,032 –> 00:28:35,952
city of Detroit under that contract.
842
00:28:38,032 –> 00:28:39,232
So that’s executive order.
843
00:28:39,232 –> 00:28:40,312
That’s pretty much law of the land,
844
00:28:40,312 –> 00:28:40,592
isn’t it?
845
00:28:40,592 –> 00:28:41,712
That’s pretty clear cut too.
846
00:28:41,712 –> 00:28:43,072
That’s not ambiguous.
847
00:28:44,112 –> 00:28:46,992
Prohibited from having a personal relationship with
848
00:28:46,992 –> 00:28:47,832
the contractor.
849
00:28:48,672 –> 00:28:51,192
I don’t know if it could get more clear than that.
850
00:28:51,472 –> 00:28:52,512
In layman’s terms,
851
00:28:52,512 –> 00:28:53,232
no fucking.
852
00:28:55,392 –> 00:28:56,912
No getting to know each other.
853
00:28:57,552 –> 00:28:58,512
Who enforces it?
854
00:28:59,152 –> 00:29:02,272
Yeah, who’s supposed to enforce this?
855
00:29:03,792 –> 00:29:06,912
I think it’d probably be Office of the Inspector General.
856
00:29:06,912 –> 00:29:07,232
Yeah.
857
00:29:08,672 –> 00:29:11,952
I believe that there’s a city ethics board who complaints
858
00:29:11,952 –> 00:29:17,672
are risen to and then they deem whether it rises to,
859
00:29:17,672 –> 00:29:19,232
you know,
860
00:29:19,352 –> 00:29:22,832
a misdemeanor level that state law enforcement needs
861
00:29:22,832 –> 00:29:23,312
to take care of.
862
00:29:23,952 –> 00:29:24,592
Good luck with that.
863
00:29:26,192 –> 00:29:30,352
Obviously there has to be some appetite to file an
864
00:29:30,352 –> 00:29:33,872
ethics complaint against very powerful people within
865
00:29:33,872 –> 00:29:34,352
the city.
866
00:29:35,232 –> 00:29:38,832
And Detroit in so many ways is a go along,
867
00:29:38,832 –> 00:29:40,912
get along town among the elite.
868
00:29:41,712 –> 00:29:45,712
And I doubt anything was filed in the instance we’re
869
00:29:45,712 –> 00:29:46,432
talking about here.
870
00:29:46,992 –> 00:29:47,712
So listen here,
871
00:29:47,712 –> 00:29:48,192
boss.
872
00:29:48,192 –> 00:29:50,912
Is this a story to you?
873
00:29:52,512 –> 00:29:53,832
This seems to be a story.
874
00:29:54,192 –> 00:29:55,952
Is this a major fucking story?
875
00:29:58,032 –> 00:29:58,992
I would say so.
876
00:30:00,112 –> 00:30:03,392
You know, I don’t know if it kept the voting records,
877
00:30:03,392 –> 00:30:08,592
but I highly doubt that Mary Sheffield recused herself
878
00:30:08,752 –> 00:30:13,072
from all votes on contracts regarding.
879
00:30:13,112 –> 00:30:14,472
No, in fact,
880
00:30:14,472 –> 00:30:17,832
her people said it was her duty to do so.
881
00:30:17,832 –> 00:30:19,832
To vote.
882
00:30:19,952 –> 00:30:21,072
She was obligated,
883
00:30:21,112 –> 00:30:22,432
obligated to vote.
884
00:30:23,552 –> 00:30:24,552
And they claim,
885
00:30:24,552 –> 00:30:26,192
and we’re going to dig this up,
886
00:30:26,232 –> 00:30:27,072
I’m assuming,
887
00:30:27,312 –> 00:30:29,712
they claim she voted no on every single one of them.
888
00:30:32,192 –> 00:30:34,992
And according to this executive order,
889
00:30:34,992 –> 00:30:37,352
she may have had an obligation to vote,
890
00:30:37,472 –> 00:30:40,072
but she was prohibited from having the relationship
891
00:30:40,072 –> 00:30:40,672
in the 1st place.
892
00:30:40,672 –> 00:30:40,752
So.
893
00:30:42,432 –> 00:30:43,392
This fucking circuit.
894
00:30:43,392 –> 00:30:44,672
Could be a both and here.
895
00:30:45,072 –> 00:30:46,752
Oh, Jesus Christ.
896
00:30:46,752 –> 00:30:49,312
Okay, so just hang there a second.
897
00:30:50,672 –> 00:30:51,872
Picking up on what you guys said.
898
00:30:54,272 –> 00:30:55,872
Most people now are voting absentee.
899
00:30:55,872 –> 00:30:57,392
So what’s done is done,
900
00:30:57,392 –> 00:30:57,712
right?
901
00:30:58,832 –> 00:31:01,392
But now walking into the big chair,
902
00:31:01,392 –> 00:31:02,952
nobody cares about city council.
903
00:31:02,952 –> 00:31:04,272
They care about the mayor’s office.
904
00:31:04,352 –> 00:31:07,112
We have a major environmental scandal.
905
00:31:08,032 –> 00:31:10,992
The guy trying to get back into business with the city,
906
00:31:10,992 –> 00:31:13,152
being kicked out by fucking big oil,
907
00:31:13,312 –> 00:31:15,952
Marathon Petroleum Corporation.
908
00:31:19,152 –> 00:31:21,472
Somebody told me a city council’s ass is grasped.
909
00:31:21,792 –> 00:31:23,072
We assume that to be so.
910
00:31:23,312 –> 00:31:24,832
But who’s going to pay?
911
00:31:24,832 –> 00:31:26,032
She now has to make a decision.
912
00:31:26,032 –> 00:31:26,912
We have no money.
913
00:31:28,352 –> 00:31:29,512
Who’s going to pay for the cleanup?
914
00:31:29,512 –> 00:31:31,072
Because this guy’s not going to pay for it.
915
00:31:31,312 –> 00:31:31,792
We know.
916
00:31:31,792 –> 00:31:33,792
We know who’s going to pay for the cleanup or who they’re
917
00:31:33,792 –> 00:31:34,432
going to ask.
918
00:31:34,752 –> 00:31:35,232
Who’s that?
919
00:31:35,392 –> 00:31:36,112
The suburbs.
920
00:31:36,272 –> 00:31:36,752
The state,
921
00:31:36,832 –> 00:31:37,552
the suburbs,
922
00:31:37,632 –> 00:31:37,912
right?
923
00:31:38,112 –> 00:31:39,072
The people of Detroit.
924
00:31:39,072 –> 00:31:40,112
The Metro Detroiters.
925
00:31:40,192 –> 00:31:41,952
Just all of us in Michigan.
926
00:31:41,952 –> 00:31:43,152
Again, the feds,
927
00:31:43,392 –> 00:31:43,712
right?
928
00:31:43,952 –> 00:31:44,352
Okay.
929
00:31:47,392 –> 00:31:50,712
Are we going to test more of these sites if 80%
930
00:31:50,992 –> 00:31:51,952
is coming up?
931
00:31:53,952 –> 00:31:59,552
She once called for a congressional hearing into the
932
00:31:59,552 –> 00:32:00,832
sorts of demolition dirt.
933
00:32:01,472 –> 00:32:02,432
Way back when,
934
00:32:03,072 –> 00:32:04,192
never followed through.
935
00:32:04,272 –> 00:32:07,952
So way back then,
936
00:32:08,032 –> 00:32:08,912
we never got a look.
937
00:32:08,912 –> 00:32:09,872
Are we going to get the look?
938
00:32:09,872 –> 00:32:11,392
Are we going to find out what happened here?
939
00:32:11,472 –> 00:32:14,992
That’s what now faces her right off the rip.
940
00:32:15,872 –> 00:32:16,592
Am I wrong?
941
00:32:17,512 –> 00:32:17,832
No.
942
00:32:18,032 –> 00:32:21,472
40 lots is a pretty good sample size for the city.
943
00:32:21,552 –> 00:32:26,952
If 33 of them have toxic dirt of the 2,500 plus,
944
00:32:26,952 –> 00:32:29,872
because 2,500 is just the number you quoted his company
945
00:32:30,192 –> 00:32:33,312
doing, how many lots across the city?
946
00:32:33,712 –> 00:32:36,912
And if it’s running at a similar sample of 80%,
947
00:32:37,312 –> 00:32:40,352
We’re talking about thousands of lots with toxic dirt.
948
00:32:40,512 –> 00:32:41,472
Now consider this.
949
00:32:41,472 –> 00:32:42,672
In certain areas of Detroit,
950
00:32:42,672 –> 00:32:44,672
specifically on the western side of Detroit,
951
00:32:44,752 –> 00:32:48,112
they were tearing down homes and backfilling aggressively,
952
00:32:48,752 –> 00:32:50,832
specifically in the aforementioned Brightmoor,
953
00:32:51,472 –> 00:32:54,032
where they had multiple crews running in the time
954
00:32:54,032 –> 00:32:55,152
period that we’re talking about.
955
00:32:56,472 –> 00:32:57,632
And this numb nuts,
956
00:32:57,632 –> 00:33:00,032
he seems to think he’s trying to throw other people
957
00:33:00,032 –> 00:33:00,592
under the bus,
958
00:33:00,832 –> 00:33:02,752
like city approved dirt sourcing.
959
00:33:03,312 –> 00:33:03,632
They’re like,
960
00:33:03,632 –> 00:33:04,432
fuck that guy.
961
00:33:04,592 –> 00:33:05,432
But he doesn’t know.
962
00:33:05,432 –> 00:33:06,432
I hope he’s listening.
963
00:33:06,832 –> 00:33:07,872
The year you’re looking at,
964
00:33:07,872 –> 00:33:09,952
dude, ain’t the year that they got you on.
965
00:33:10,912 –> 00:33:12,392
So, and you know,
966
00:33:12,592 –> 00:33:16,552
I’m aware of who the authorities are talking to and
967
00:33:16,552 –> 00:33:17,552
what they’re asking for.
968
00:33:17,552 –> 00:33:18,672
It does not,
969
00:33:19,152 –> 00:33:20,192
does not look good.
970
00:33:20,432 –> 00:33:21,472
And right back to you,
971
00:33:21,472 –> 00:33:22,832
Mark, again,
972
00:33:24,112 –> 00:33:27,672
you are prohibited from having a relationship with
973
00:33:27,672 –> 00:33:28,272
a contractor,
974
00:33:28,272 –> 00:33:30,832
with business in front of you.
975
00:33:31,665 –> 00:33:33,105
That seems to be the case.
976
00:33:33,905 –> 00:33:37,345
And if her chief of staff is admitting to the relationship,
977
00:33:39,025 –> 00:33:41,665
I think high time for an ethics complaint.
978
00:33:42,785 –> 00:33:45,505
So she hits the ground running as mayor with a scandal
979
00:33:45,505 –> 00:33:47,265
and complaints already coming at her.
980
00:33:47,345 –> 00:33:48,945
Yeah, and you know what he was hitting.
981
00:33:48,945 –> 00:33:54,425
All right,
982
00:33:54,425 –> 00:33:55,265
man, thank you.
983
00:33:55,305 –> 00:33:58,305
I’ll get to you after we finish up the program,
984
00:33:58,305 –> 00:33:59,425
figure out where we’re going with this.
985
00:34:00,625 –> 00:34:01,065
Thank you.
986
00:34:01,065 –> 00:34:01,345
Thank you,
987
00:34:01,345 –> 00:34:01,465
man.
988
00:34:04,225 –> 00:34:04,305
Bye.
989
00:34:04,305 –> 00:34:04,505
Wow.
990
00:34:04,785 –> 00:34:07,505
Do we know too that any of that dirt ended up just
991
00:34:07,505 –> 00:34:07,985
in Detroit?
992
00:34:07,985 –> 00:34:08,705
It could have,
993
00:34:09,145 –> 00:34:10,265
did it go anywhere else?
994
00:34:10,265 –> 00:34:10,385
Yeah.
995
00:34:10,785 –> 00:34:14,865
Well, we know Southfield,
996
00:34:14,865 –> 00:34:15,225
Michigan,
997
00:34:15,225 –> 00:34:16,145
where Northland Mall,
998
00:34:16,145 –> 00:34:16,945
America’s first,
999
00:34:16,945 –> 00:34:18,825
was, it was funneling through there.
1000
00:34:18,825 –> 00:34:20,065
That’s what it appears to be.
1001
00:34:20,385 –> 00:34:22,785
And that’s what whistleblowers are telling the authorities.
1002
00:34:23,945 –> 00:34:25,665
I went to see Southfield and let them know.
1003
00:34:25,665 –> 00:34:26,625
They didn’t seem to know.
1004
00:34:26,785 –> 00:34:27,905
I hope they now know.
1005
00:34:28,625 –> 00:34:30,505
because we’re going to have to go there because we
1006
00:34:30,505 –> 00:34:32,865
love Southfield as much as we love Detroit.
1007
00:34:33,825 –> 00:34:34,545
You know what I’m saying?
1008
00:34:34,865 –> 00:34:35,745
It’s our people.
1009
00:34:35,825 –> 00:34:37,505
Can I ask a really stupid question?
1010
00:34:37,505 –> 00:34:37,825
Sure.
1011
00:34:37,825 –> 00:34:41,185
Can anybody file the ethics complaint or is this all
1012
00:34:41,585 –> 00:34:45,345
like it has to be from somebody in city or city resident?
1013
00:34:46,225 –> 00:34:49,105
Oh, let me just look at my ethics guidebook here.
1014
00:34:49,985 –> 00:34:51,265
I figured you might know.
1015
00:34:51,425 –> 00:34:52,465
I don’t know,
1016
00:34:52,545 –> 00:34:55,545
but if you’re going to file an ethics complaint,
1017
00:34:55,545 –> 00:34:57,025
then you’re going to have to put
1018
00:34:58,225 –> 00:34:59,585
some information together.
1019
00:35:00,305 –> 00:35:01,305
just, I don’t like them.
1020
00:35:01,425 –> 00:35:02,985
I suspect something’s going on.
1021
00:35:03,185 –> 00:35:04,945
That’s why I said nothing.
1022
00:35:05,825 –> 00:35:07,945
Again, you can walk around City Hall and everybody
1023
00:35:07,945 –> 00:35:08,465
goes like this,
1024
00:35:11,105 –> 00:35:11,385
right?
1025
00:35:11,585 –> 00:35:15,145
So it’s possible that a private agency or a private
1026
00:35:15,145 –> 00:35:18,505
individual could have ground tested in these various
1027
00:35:18,505 –> 00:35:20,425
sites themselves that we don’t previously know about.
1028
00:35:21,425 –> 00:35:22,705
The Inspector General,
1029
00:35:22,865 –> 00:35:23,665
we did the story,
1030
00:35:23,665 –> 00:35:24,065
the first,
1031
00:35:24,065 –> 00:35:25,345
oh, we got whistleblowers,
1032
00:35:25,345 –> 00:35:25,585
right?
1033
00:35:26,625 –> 00:35:28,305
The Inspector General picks up on it,
1034
00:35:28,305 –> 00:35:29,665
finds the whistleblowers,
1035
00:35:30,065 –> 00:35:31,825
does their own investigation,
1036
00:35:32,145 –> 00:35:35,545
and requires the city demolition department to test
1037
00:35:35,545 –> 00:35:36,465
these 40 sites.
1038
00:35:37,265 –> 00:35:38,545
So it’s been done.
1039
00:35:39,505 –> 00:35:40,945
So are we going to keep going?
1040
00:35:40,945 –> 00:35:41,985
Because this…
1041
00:35:43,825 –> 00:35:44,665
30,000.
1042
00:35:44,665 –> 00:35:44,985
Hey, Mike,
1043
00:35:44,985 –> 00:35:46,785
you want to keep saying it’s 47,000?
1044
00:35:46,785 –> 00:35:47,585
Be my guest.
1045
00:35:47,985 –> 00:35:50,425
30,000 at 80%,
1046
00:35:50,425 –> 00:35:51,625
30,000 at 10%.
1047
00:35:51,625 –> 00:35:53,345
That’s 3,000.
1048
00:35:53,425 –> 00:35:54,785
At 60,000 a whole,
1049
00:35:54,945 –> 00:35:55,425
what’s that?
1050
00:35:55,425 –> 00:35:56,785
18 million?
1051
00:35:57,025 –> 00:35:57,665
I don’t even know.
1052
00:35:57,745 –> 00:35:58,825
I can’t do the zeros.
1053
00:35:58,825 –> 00:36:00,145
It’s too much math for me.
1054
00:36:00,265 –> 00:36:00,705
Hey, go ahead,
1055
00:36:00,705 –> 00:36:01,065
hit that,
1056
00:36:01,065 –> 00:36:02,025
bro, on your calculator.
1057
00:36:02,025 –> 00:36:02,865
Let me just do it.
1058
00:36:03,105 –> 00:36:04,465
Let’s just say it’s 3,000.
1059
00:36:05,185 –> 00:36:05,825
It’s the zeros.
1060
00:36:05,825 –> 00:36:06,785
They know how to do math.
1061
00:36:08,185 –> 00:36:10,105
I’m really good at math.
1062
00:36:10,105 –> 00:36:11,425
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
1063
00:36:11,425 –> 00:36:13,385
I was under the impression there’d be no math in this
1064
00:36:13,425 –> 00:36:14,105
podcast.
1065
00:36:15,185 –> 00:36:16,905
The best podcasts have lots of math.
1066
00:36:18,025 –> 00:36:18,945
3,000 holes,
1067
00:36:18,945 –> 00:36:19,385
I’d say 10%
1068
00:36:19,385 –> 00:36:21,625
of them, times 60,000.
1069
00:36:22,225 –> 00:36:26,225
And 60,000 was a year or two ago’s price.
1070
00:36:26,945 –> 00:36:27,825
There’s inflation.
1071
00:36:27,825 –> 00:36:28,265
You’re right.
1072
00:36:28,505 –> 00:36:29,465
And what is it?
1073
00:36:29,505 –> 00:36:30,025
18 million.
1074
00:36:30,025 –> 00:36:30,505
18 million.
1075
00:36:30,505 –> 00:36:31,585
We don’t got 18 million.
1076
00:36:32,945 –> 00:36:34,025
We don’t got 18 million.
1077
00:36:38,945 –> 00:36:40,705
I think the concerning thing too is there seems to
1078
00:36:40,705 –> 00:36:44,305
be a total lack of interest from the people in charge
1079
00:36:44,305 –> 00:36:45,385
to really look into.
1080
00:36:45,505 –> 00:36:48,825
I mean, obviously because it comes back to that or
1081
00:36:48,825 –> 00:36:51,225
it appears it seems like it would come back to them
1082
00:36:51,225 –> 00:36:53,105
because where’s the will to fix this?
1083
00:36:53,105 –> 00:36:54,065
There is no will.
1084
00:36:54,065 –> 00:36:55,425
Do you want another pun?
1085
00:36:55,825 –> 00:36:56,945
They want to bury it.
1086
00:36:57,705 –> 00:36:58,505
They want to bury it.
1087
00:36:58,505 –> 00:37:01,345
You’re going to dig up 33 holes and call it a day.
1088
00:37:01,345 –> 00:37:03,425
That makes it more transparent that they’re doing something
1089
00:37:03,465 –> 00:37:03,585
wrong.
1090
00:37:03,665 –> 00:37:07,505
But as the people of Detroit discover what’s happened,
1091
00:37:07,585 –> 00:37:09,265
they’re going to be the ones that drive this.
1092
00:37:10,385 –> 00:37:13,025
I mean, because I don’t think it’ll be driven by the
1093
00:37:13,025 –> 00:37:15,185
media that should be informing people.
1094
00:37:15,185 –> 00:37:17,425
But I got to think people in the communities where
1095
00:37:17,425 –> 00:37:18,905
this happened are going to be outraged.
1096
00:37:18,905 –> 00:37:20,305
Should we be informing people?
1097
00:37:20,625 –> 00:37:22,465
Is this of the public interest in it?
1098
00:37:22,465 –> 00:37:24,065
That’s kind of what the media is here for.
1099
00:37:24,145 –> 00:37:24,705
I thought so.
1100
00:37:24,705 –> 00:37:26,785
That’s when it used to be the press.
1101
00:37:27,265 –> 00:37:29,985
Now we became a slick version called the media.
1102
00:37:30,305 –> 00:37:31,105
You know, just come on,
1103
00:37:31,105 –> 00:37:32,305
I give you some…
1104
00:37:32,665 –> 00:37:33,745
But now when they ignore it,
1105
00:37:33,745 –> 00:37:36,625
you got social media though to amplify things that
1106
00:37:36,625 –> 00:37:37,745
people aren’t hearing otherwise.
1107
00:37:37,985 –> 00:37:38,585
God, it’s fucked.
1108
00:37:39,105 –> 00:37:39,425
It’s
1109
00:37:40,465 –> 00:37:41,265
The media can be,
1110
00:37:41,585 –> 00:37:42,625
they can be pulled to it.
1111
00:37:42,625 –> 00:37:45,105
After living through fucking Flint,
1112
00:37:46,225 –> 00:37:46,545
right?
1113
00:37:46,785 –> 00:37:47,905
And we missed it.
1114
00:37:47,905 –> 00:37:50,105
I remember working at Fox too and getting in a fight
1115
00:37:50,105 –> 00:37:51,025
with my producer.
1116
00:37:51,265 –> 00:37:51,585
Like.
1117
00:37:52,785 –> 00:37:53,505
Was it Ken Beck?
1118
00:37:54,305 –> 00:37:54,905
Yeah, it was.
1119
00:37:56,185 –> 00:37:56,865
It was.
1120
00:37:57,025 –> 00:37:58,145
It was all you all.
1121
00:37:58,145 –> 00:37:58,865
Because I’m like,
1122
00:37:59,185 –> 00:37:59,665
hey, man,
1123
00:37:59,985 –> 00:38:01,465
I’ve been on the road.
1124
00:38:01,585 –> 00:38:04,625
We did one story on Flint when we were doing the Americans.
1125
00:38:04,785 –> 00:38:08,425
We were tasked with covering the whole country and
1126
00:38:09,185 –> 00:38:11,585
getting that on all of their subsidiaries,
1127
00:38:11,585 –> 00:38:11,825
right?
1128
00:38:11,825 –> 00:38:13,025
So we were like syndicated.
1129
00:38:13,705 –> 00:38:16,545
And we came back and then it came back for sure.
1130
00:38:16,625 –> 00:38:17,745
Flint’s been poisoned.
1131
00:38:18,185 –> 00:38:18,745
And it was like,
1132
00:38:18,945 –> 00:38:21,385
well, what have we fucking been doing here for two
1133
00:38:21,385 –> 00:38:21,665
years?
1134
00:38:22,385 –> 00:38:23,665
We all did one story,
1135
00:38:23,665 –> 00:38:24,545
The Water’s Brown.
1136
00:38:25,105 –> 00:38:26,385
And we didn’t do shit.
1137
00:38:26,865 –> 00:38:29,185
And I was angry about it.
1138
00:38:29,585 –> 00:38:30,145
And I said,
1139
00:38:30,145 –> 00:38:30,945
never again,
1140
00:38:31,505 –> 00:38:31,985
never again.
1141
00:38:31,985 –> 00:38:33,105
I’m going to let that slide.
1142
00:38:33,185 –> 00:38:36,385
I want to apologize to Flint that I didn’t do enough.
1143
00:38:37,345 –> 00:38:39,345
But to Mark’s point about the will.
1144
00:38:39,345 –> 00:38:40,545
No, but, no,
1145
00:38:40,625 –> 00:38:42,225
but, I’m sorry.
1146
00:38:42,545 –> 00:38:43,105
No, I get it.
1147
00:38:43,185 –> 00:38:43,985
I’m sorry.
1148
00:38:43,985 –> 00:38:44,785
And you know,
1149
00:38:44,785 –> 00:38:47,425
like, everybody I know is like,
1150
00:38:47,425 –> 00:38:48,705
Janny’s playing in the mud again.
1151
00:38:48,865 –> 00:38:49,345
And I’m like,
1152
00:38:51,705 –> 00:38:54,385
This is another example of when you have a city or
1153
00:38:54,385 –> 00:38:57,345
a region that’s operating under one party control.
1154
00:38:57,345 –> 00:38:59,025
So to Mark’s point about the will,
1155
00:38:59,025 –> 00:39:02,065
there is no will because it’s a institutional capture.
1156
00:39:02,385 –> 00:39:03,625
In the Flint water crisis,
1157
00:39:03,625 –> 00:39:06,385
you had a Republican governor that the media could
1158
00:39:06,385 –> 00:39:08,625
frame as the bad guy,
1159
00:39:08,705 –> 00:39:12,385
or you had random people working out in Lansing that
1160
00:39:12,385 –> 00:39:13,985
they could frame as the bad guy,
1161
00:39:14,705 –> 00:39:15,825
that you could ostensibly,
1162
00:39:16,145 –> 00:39:16,465
you know,
1163
00:39:16,465 –> 00:39:20,225
kind of build a permission structure that all of these
1164
00:39:20,225 –> 00:39:20,545
are
1165
00:39:20,985 –> 00:39:22,585
This is the other party we can chase this down.
1166
00:39:22,585 –> 00:39:23,065
What are you saying?
1167
00:39:23,065 –> 00:39:25,585
Permissions for right down here,
1168
00:39:25,585 –> 00:39:26,785
right down here in Detroit.
1169
00:39:26,785 –> 00:39:28,745
There’s no political will because it’s one party will.
1170
00:39:28,745 –> 00:39:29,985
Well, there was none in Flint either,
1171
00:39:29,985 –> 00:39:30,465
dude.
1172
00:39:30,465 –> 00:39:31,985
Yes, but at that time we had.
1173
00:39:32,065 –> 00:39:33,185
What do you know about Flint?
1174
00:39:33,625 –> 00:39:35,545
Did you do a fucking one story on Flint?
1175
00:39:36,025 –> 00:39:36,545
What do you know?
1176
00:39:36,545 –> 00:39:38,105
I’ve been in there for 25 years.
1177
00:39:38,105 –> 00:39:39,265
Yeah, what do you know though?
1178
00:39:39,745 –> 00:39:43,345
Again, what we know is what we know here.
1179
00:39:44,665 –> 00:39:45,825
It’s not black.
1180
00:39:45,825 –> 00:39:46,865
It’s not white.
1181
00:39:46,865 –> 00:39:48,065
It’s not Democrat.
1182
00:39:48,065 –> 00:39:49,425
It’s not Republican.
1183
00:39:49,665 –> 00:39:50,785
It’s class.
1184
00:39:51,025 –> 00:39:54,465
The political class and the upper class taken from
1185
00:39:54,465 –> 00:39:55,985
us and fucking us.
1186
00:39:56,545 –> 00:39:56,865
Right?
1187
00:39:56,865 –> 00:39:57,345
Okay.
1188
00:39:58,625 –> 00:40:00,785
Black city councilwoman now going to be the mayor.
1189
00:40:00,865 –> 00:40:02,945
The white mayor now wants to be the governor.
1190
00:40:05,265 –> 00:40:07,745
The black contractor who’s rubbing elbows with high
1191
00:40:07,745 –> 00:40:08,945
white society.
1192
00:40:09,105 –> 00:40:10,825
And who’s the 4th?
1193
00:40:10,905 –> 00:40:11,345
Let’s see.
1194
00:40:15,185 –> 00:40:16,545
and the white attorney general.
1195
00:40:17,105 –> 00:40:17,985
Where you at?
1196
00:40:18,145 –> 00:40:18,865
Democrats,
1197
00:40:18,865 –> 00:40:19,825
independents,
1198
00:40:20,785 –> 00:40:21,185
right?
1199
00:40:21,985 –> 00:40:22,705
Former, you know,
1200
00:40:22,705 –> 00:40:24,785
Duggan’s dad was a fucking Republican.
1201
00:40:25,025 –> 00:40:25,585
But this is,
1202
00:40:25,585 –> 00:40:26,745
I’m not buying that.
1203
00:40:27,425 –> 00:40:28,305
It’s green.
1204
00:40:29,345 –> 00:40:30,145
It’s green.
1205
00:40:30,225 –> 00:40:32,305
And they might not be the sexiest stories,
1206
00:40:32,865 –> 00:40:34,865
but like you heard that woman,
1207
00:40:34,865 –> 00:40:37,425
Mary, if people getting hurt out there,
1208
00:40:37,825 –> 00:40:38,465
everything’s great.
1209
00:40:38,505 –> 00:40:39,625
Let me give you,
1210
00:40:39,625 –> 00:40:41,105
I like it because it got me fired up,
1211
00:40:41,105 –> 00:40:41,505
man.
1212
00:40:42,945 –> 00:40:48,025
The Washington fucking post that abandoned us over
1213
00:40:48,025 –> 00:40:49,905
these last many years through COVID,
1214
00:40:49,905 –> 00:40:50,305
the lies,
1215
00:40:50,465 –> 00:40:51,345
the Russia hoax,
1216
00:40:51,345 –> 00:40:51,745
the lies.
1217
00:40:51,985 –> 00:40:53,665
You decided you were teaming up.
1218
00:40:53,745 –> 00:40:56,545
You were going to be the dog at the table of the elite
1219
00:40:56,705 –> 00:40:58,305
and do their fucking dirt.
1220
00:40:59,185 –> 00:41:00,185
No pun intended.
1221
00:41:00,465 –> 00:41:03,025
Now they want to be middle of the road.
1222
00:41:03,905 –> 00:41:04,385
So
1223
00:41:05,425 –> 00:41:06,385
I put it up,
1224
00:41:06,385 –> 00:41:06,625
dude.
1225
00:41:06,625 –> 00:41:07,505
I can’t see that.
1226
00:41:08,305 –> 00:41:09,665
This went to Washington Post put out.
1227
00:41:09,665 –> 00:41:11,465
Was it this week or late last week?
1228
00:41:11,465 –> 00:41:12,385
October 22nd.
1229
00:41:12,465 –> 00:41:13,105
Okay.
1230
00:41:13,105 –> 00:41:13,985
A week ago?
1231
00:41:14,705 –> 00:41:15,185
Last week.
1232
00:41:16,145 –> 00:41:16,465
Week ago.
1233
00:41:16,545 –> 00:41:17,185
I can’t see that,
1234
00:41:17,185 –> 00:41:17,585
bro.
1235
00:41:18,225 –> 00:41:19,025
I want to read it.
1236
00:41:19,105 –> 00:41:19,505
Okay.
1237
00:41:19,745 –> 00:41:20,425
So put it up.
1238
00:41:22,825 –> 00:41:23,585
Can’t you blow it up?
1239
00:41:23,585 –> 00:41:24,305
Can you get me off?
1240
00:41:24,305 –> 00:41:24,665
Yeah, give me,
1241
00:41:24,665 –> 00:41:25,345
give me one second.
1242
00:41:25,345 –> 00:41:26,265
OK, we’re just going to.
1243
00:41:26,385 –> 00:41:27,145
That’s an effort.
1244
00:41:27,145 –> 00:41:28,145
Real, real quickly.
1245
00:41:28,585 –> 00:41:31,305
That’s an effort to normalize Mamdani to Midwest.
1246
00:41:31,305 –> 00:41:31,865
They’re trying to.
1247
00:41:31,865 –> 00:41:33,185
No, did you read this?
1248
00:41:33,345 –> 00:41:35,265
No, but I’m just speaking very quickly.
1249
00:41:35,265 –> 00:41:36,145
Well, that’s not,
1250
00:41:36,145 –> 00:41:36,785
that’s not,
1251
00:41:36,945 –> 00:41:38,145
that’s not what this is about.
1252
00:41:38,825 –> 00:41:40,785
Again, we’ll read it,
1253
00:41:40,825 –> 00:41:41,425
then we’ll go.
1254
00:41:41,585 –> 00:41:41,825
This.
1255
00:41:42,385 –> 00:41:42,945
Oh, there we go.
1256
00:41:42,945 –> 00:41:43,385
Look at that.
1257
00:41:43,425 –> 00:41:43,825
Look at that.
1258
00:41:44,345 –> 00:41:47,665
It’s a glaring vision of awesomeness.
1259
00:41:47,825 –> 00:41:48,385
You’ll see.
1260
00:41:48,385 –> 00:41:49,265
You’ll see what it is,
1261
00:41:49,265 –> 00:41:49,585
bro.
1262
00:41:49,785 –> 00:41:50,305
And then.
1263
00:41:51,345 –> 00:41:52,585
It’s different than what you think.
1264
00:41:52,625 –> 00:41:53,745
Okay, so Washington Post,
1265
00:41:54,065 –> 00:41:55,945
Detroit and its outgoing mayor.
1266
00:41:56,345 –> 00:41:58,025
Model big city comeback.
1267
00:41:59,225 –> 00:42:00,025
Sub-headline.
1268
00:42:00,985 –> 00:42:03,945
Zoran Mamdani could learn a lot from Mike Duggan.
1269
00:42:04,905 –> 00:42:06,425
It’s not about Mamdani at all.
1270
00:42:07,385 –> 00:42:07,625
All right,
1271
00:42:07,625 –> 00:42:08,105
here we go.
1272
00:42:08,105 –> 00:42:09,705
I’m just going to read this.
1273
00:42:09,945 –> 00:42:10,665
We’ll jump in.
1274
00:42:10,985 –> 00:42:11,865
A dozen years ago,
1275
00:42:11,865 –> 00:42:13,305
Detroit stood out.
1276
00:42:13,625 –> 00:42:15,465
This is the editorial page.
1277
00:42:16,905 –> 00:42:17,785
A dozen years ago,
1278
00:42:17,785 –> 00:42:21,305
Detroit stood out as America’s decaying symbol of
1279
00:42:21,305 –> 00:42:22,425
urban dysfunction.
1280
00:42:22,825 –> 00:42:24,985
Once the nation’s 4th largest city,
1281
00:42:25,385 –> 00:42:30,985
its population dipped below 700,000 in 2013 for the
1282
00:42:30,985 –> 00:42:32,505
first time since World War I.
1283
00:42:32,985 –> 00:42:35,065
with the nation’s highest homicide rate.
1284
00:42:35,225 –> 00:42:38,505
Motor City became known as Murder City.
1285
00:42:38,825 –> 00:42:41,545
It was one of the poorest big cities in America with
1286
00:42:41,545 –> 00:42:45,225
the highest child poverty rate and worst unemployment.
1287
00:42:45,465 –> 00:42:46,265
That year,
1288
00:42:46,665 –> 00:42:47,945
that’s the year of bankruptcy now,
1289
00:42:48,825 –> 00:42:52,825
Detroit gained the ignominy of being the largest city
1290
00:42:52,825 –> 00:42:55,545
in America to ever declare bankruptcy.
1291
00:42:55,945 –> 00:42:58,225
After 12 years of sound management,
1292
00:42:58,505 –> 00:43:01,705
Detroit has bounced back like an urban Lazarus.
1293
00:43:02,505 –> 00:43:05,665
Its rebound offers lessons for other struggling large
1294
00:43:05,665 –> 00:43:06,185
cities.
1295
00:43:06,545 –> 00:43:10,825
Detroit has seen its first population uptick in decades.
1296
00:43:11,465 –> 00:43:11,785
Okay.
1297
00:43:13,265 –> 00:43:15,785
When Mike Duggan came to office in 2013,
1298
00:43:15,785 –> 00:43:20,265
the estimated population was 680 to 700,000.
1299
00:43:20,745 –> 00:43:22,665
In today’s new estimation,
1300
00:43:23,545 –> 00:43:24,705
it’s 640.
1301
00:43:25,785 –> 00:43:28,665
We lost 40 to 60,000 people under this dude.
1302
00:43:28,745 –> 00:43:30,105
That is no comeback.
1303
00:43:30,185 –> 00:43:31,305
That is no uptick.
1304
00:43:31,705 –> 00:43:33,545
The uptick lies in this.
1305
00:43:34,265 –> 00:43:37,145
The Census Bureau decided they’re going to use new
1306
00:43:37,145 –> 00:43:39,545
metrics like change of address,
1307
00:43:39,785 –> 00:43:40,665
postal stuff,
1308
00:43:41,305 –> 00:43:42,345
utility bills.
1309
00:43:43,465 –> 00:43:46,425
Every metropolitan area,
1310
00:43:46,425 –> 00:43:48,185
every big city except Frisco,
1311
00:43:48,665 –> 00:43:50,345
gained population.
1312
00:43:50,745 –> 00:43:52,105
This is no miracle.
1313
00:43:52,345 –> 00:43:53,465
It’s also known,
1314
00:43:53,745 –> 00:43:54,905
and said by the census,
1315
00:43:55,305 –> 00:43:58,425
that most of these are illegals.
1316
00:43:58,745 –> 00:44:02,265
So we gained a couple thousand people because we recounted
1317
00:44:02,265 –> 00:44:02,505
them.
1318
00:44:04,425 –> 00:44:06,705
We moved people in here that we’re trying to move out.
1319
00:44:07,705 –> 00:44:08,745
Nonsense.
1320
00:44:09,145 –> 00:44:12,225
Okay, unemployment at 8.8%
1321
00:44:12,225 –> 00:44:13,945
is still above the national average,
1322
00:44:13,945 –> 00:44:15,385
but down from its peak of 23%.
1323
00:44:15,385 –> 00:44:18,345
I don’t know,
1324
00:44:18,345 –> 00:44:20,025
the labor participation rate,
1325
00:44:20,185 –> 00:44:24,585
those who actually work,
1326
00:44:25,305 –> 00:44:27,465
unemployment is measured by those looking for work.
1327
00:44:28,425 –> 00:44:32,385
Detroit’s labor participation rate is less than 50%.
1328
00:44:32,985 –> 00:44:35,785
So with this snap deal and the government shutdown,
1329
00:44:36,025 –> 00:44:39,385
holy hell’s coming here because that’s a stupid statistic
1330
00:44:39,705 –> 00:44:42,905
that the Washington Post is out to lunch shot.
1331
00:44:43,545 –> 00:44:46,785
Homicides fell last year to the lowest since 1965.
1332
00:44:46,985 –> 00:44:50,665
We’ve been using that since 1965 for the last four
1333
00:44:50,665 –> 00:44:51,145
years.
1334
00:44:51,385 –> 00:44:52,585
What do we know about homicide?
1335
00:44:53,825 –> 00:44:55,465
But they haven’t been accurately recording them.
1336
00:44:55,705 –> 00:44:56,505
How do we know that?
1337
00:44:56,745 –> 00:44:59,385
Because you did the research on the coroner’s numbers
1338
00:44:59,385 –> 00:45:01,705
as compared to what the police department is producing
1339
00:45:01,705 –> 00:45:02,345
in the FBI.
1340
00:45:02,825 –> 00:45:03,625
Now everybody’s going,
1341
00:45:03,625 –> 00:45:04,985
Chicago’s numbers are fake.
1342
00:45:05,705 –> 00:45:06,985
DC’s numbers are fake.
1343
00:45:07,305 –> 00:45:08,665
Newsom’s numbers are fake.
1344
00:45:08,825 –> 00:45:10,425
Detroit’s numbers are fake.
1345
00:45:11,385 –> 00:45:13,065
They reclassified these things.
1346
00:45:13,225 –> 00:45:14,345
They took them out.
1347
00:45:16,185 –> 00:45:17,225
Homicide’s 10%
1348
00:45:17,225 –> 00:45:17,625
higher.
1349
00:45:18,265 –> 00:45:19,385
The response times,
1350
00:45:19,385 –> 00:45:20,105
as I reported,
1351
00:45:20,505 –> 00:45:23,705
You’re adding in traffic stops as 911 responses,
1352
00:45:23,945 –> 00:45:26,905
making your response time go way down.
1353
00:45:27,065 –> 00:45:27,945
It’s been a mirage.
1354
00:45:29,945 –> 00:45:32,025
Within police infrastructure,
1355
00:45:32,025 –> 00:45:33,905
they refer to this as juking the stats.
1356
00:45:34,025 –> 00:45:34,185
Yes.
1357
00:45:34,985 –> 00:45:36,585
LA got rung up for it a while ago.
1358
00:45:36,585 –> 00:45:38,185
New York got rung up for it.
1359
00:45:39,625 –> 00:45:42,665
Dude, come to the southwest side.
1360
00:45:42,745 –> 00:45:43,145
Okay.
1361
00:45:44,105 –> 00:45:46,585
The once desolate streets of downtown are bustling.
1362
00:45:47,305 –> 00:45:49,385
downtown is different than the suburbs.
1363
00:45:49,465 –> 00:45:50,185
Is it bustling?
1364
00:45:51,305 –> 00:45:52,105
I work down here.
1365
00:45:52,105 –> 00:45:52,905
Only on game days.
1366
00:45:52,945 –> 00:45:53,545
On game days,
1367
00:45:53,545 –> 00:45:53,705
yeah.
1368
00:45:53,705 –> 00:45:54,745
Okay, there you go.
1369
00:45:55,305 –> 00:45:56,105
On game days.
1370
00:45:56,905 –> 00:45:57,545
Well said.
1371
00:45:58,665 –> 00:45:59,745
And even on game days,
1372
00:45:59,745 –> 00:46:01,945
there’s bars right outside of LCA that are closed.
1373
00:46:01,945 –> 00:46:02,825
Today’s not a game day.
1374
00:46:02,825 –> 00:46:04,025
I didn’t see no bustling.
1375
00:46:04,505 –> 00:46:07,225
It’s funny you say that because the next
1376
00:46:07,785 –> 00:46:08,745
Sentence here,
1377
00:46:08,985 –> 00:46:10,025
this is how they spin it.
1378
00:46:10,105 –> 00:46:11,385
It’s how Duggan spin it.
1379
00:46:11,385 –> 00:46:13,225
Even the Detroit Lions football team,
1380
00:46:13,225 –> 00:46:16,025
which failed to win a single game in 2008,
1381
00:46:16,185 –> 00:46:18,025
is playing like a Super Bowl contender.
1382
00:46:18,745 –> 00:46:20,265
So for you hockey bros,
1383
00:46:20,585 –> 00:46:21,305
friends of mine,
1384
00:46:21,545 –> 00:46:22,185
you know what I mean?
1385
00:46:22,825 –> 00:46:24,425
All four of the teams are doing well.
1386
00:46:24,665 –> 00:46:26,145
Duggan has done an amazing job.
1387
00:46:29,145 –> 00:46:29,865
Dude to Duggan.
1388
00:46:30,425 –> 00:46:30,905
Thanks A lot.
1389
00:46:31,225 –> 00:46:31,945
That’s how they said it.
1390
00:46:31,945 –> 00:46:33,105
Okay, on the fiscal side,
1391
00:46:33,105 –> 00:46:36,265
Detroit has now had 12 consecutive balanced budget
1392
00:46:36,505 –> 00:46:39,465
and managed to put 500 million into a rainy day fund.
1393
00:46:40,345 –> 00:46:41,705
The terms of the bankruptcy,
1394
00:46:41,945 –> 00:46:43,785
you must have a balanced budget.
1395
00:46:44,905 –> 00:46:46,345
How do we get a balanced budget?
1396
00:46:47,785 –> 00:46:50,265
$150 million a year is supposed to go to pensions.
1397
00:46:50,505 –> 00:46:51,385
For 10 years,
1398
00:46:51,545 –> 00:46:53,225
Detroit got a pension holiday.
1399
00:46:53,545 –> 00:46:55,705
They didn’t pay pensions.
1400
00:46:56,025 –> 00:46:57,065
Who paid the pensions?
1401
00:46:58,665 –> 00:46:59,945
DeLorean, who paid the pensions?
1402
00:47:01,065 –> 00:47:01,905
That’s questionable.
1403
00:47:01,905 –> 00:47:02,425
The Burbs.
1404
00:47:02,745 –> 00:47:02,945
Yeah.
1405
00:47:03,145 –> 00:47:06,265
The Burbs and the philanthropic organizations,
1406
00:47:06,425 –> 00:47:06,745
right?
1407
00:47:06,745 –> 00:47:07,865
So we didn’t sell off the art.
1408
00:47:08,025 –> 00:47:09,545
It’s the redistribution of wealth.
1409
00:47:09,545 –> 00:47:11,545
So for 10 years,
1410
00:47:12,345 –> 00:47:14,225
Duggan didn’t have to pay the pens.
1411
00:47:14,265 –> 00:47:17,625
That’s $150 million a year for 10 years,
1412
00:47:17,785 –> 00:47:18,585
1.5 billion.
1413
00:47:19,385 –> 00:47:21,945
He managed to put $500 million in a rainy day fund.
1414
00:47:23,065 –> 00:47:24,625
Okay, that’s wrong,
1415
00:47:24,625 –> 00:47:25,545
Washington Post.
1416
00:47:25,705 –> 00:47:28,785
The rainy day fund has $150 million.
1417
00:47:29,225 –> 00:47:30,825
There’s the pension fund,
1418
00:47:31,625 –> 00:47:33,425
which has $350 million,
1419
00:47:33,785 –> 00:47:35,705
because Detroit now has to start paying its tax.
1420
00:47:35,705 –> 00:47:37,145
Wait, they lumped the pension fund?
1421
00:47:37,465 –> 00:47:38,465
With the rainy day fund.
1422
00:47:38,825 –> 00:47:40,065
This is the Washington Post.
1423
00:47:40,425 –> 00:47:43,865
So we’ve got two years of pension cushion,
1424
00:47:44,905 –> 00:47:45,785
because the state,
1425
00:47:46,105 –> 00:47:48,185
the suburbs aren’t paying the pensions anymore.
1426
00:47:48,585 –> 00:47:50,265
That’s why Duggan’s getting gone,
1427
00:47:50,985 –> 00:47:52,665
because revenue never grew.
1428
00:47:53,465 –> 00:47:57,065
He never managed to find an extra nickel after 10 years
1429
00:47:57,905 –> 00:47:59,785
of getting $150 million off the budget.
1430
00:47:59,785 –> 00:48:01,785
What’s the annual pension payments?
1431
00:48:02,185 –> 00:48:03,105
By 150.
1432
00:48:03,385 –> 00:48:03,865
Per year?
1433
00:48:04,105 –> 00:48:04,225
Yeah.
1434
00:48:04,225 –> 00:48:06,185
That the city now has to come up with?
1435
00:48:06,185 –> 00:48:10,985
Yeah, and we got 350 million in the this is simple,
1436
00:48:11,225 –> 00:48:11,345
man.
1437
00:48:11,505 –> 00:48:12,185
In the currency.
1438
00:48:12,185 –> 00:48:13,945
How underfunded is the pension?
1439
00:48:15,225 –> 00:48:16,025
Remains a BC.
1440
00:48:16,025 –> 00:48:16,705
Let’s, you know,
1441
00:48:16,905 –> 00:48:17,145
for
1442
00:48:17,985 –> 00:48:19,305
We don’t want to get people hung up in it.
1443
00:48:19,705 –> 00:48:20,585
The simple math.
1444
00:48:20,985 –> 00:48:22,305
You ask very good questions.
1445
00:48:22,305 –> 00:48:23,305
These are very good questions.
1446
00:48:23,385 –> 00:48:24,305
But for simple math,
1447
00:48:24,865 –> 00:48:26,105
150 a year,
1448
00:48:26,185 –> 00:48:26,865
that’s 300.
1449
00:48:26,865 –> 00:48:28,505
We got 350 million in that thing,
1450
00:48:28,745 –> 00:48:29,065
right?
1451
00:48:29,065 –> 00:48:31,865
People need to understand the general fund is 1.5 billion,
1452
00:48:31,865 –> 00:48:32,905
right?
1453
00:48:32,985 –> 00:48:34,385
So 10% of the budget’s got to be.
1454
00:48:34,385 –> 00:48:37,945
So they need to come up with 150 million on top of
1455
00:48:37,945 –> 00:48:41,385
that and police and fire contracts are up and they’re
1456
00:48:41,385 –> 00:48:42,785
going to want a minimum of 3%
1457
00:48:42,905 –> 00:48:43,585
increase.
1458
00:48:43,585 –> 00:48:45,145
I don’t know what their budget line is,
1459
00:48:45,465 –> 00:48:47,905
but you’re talking about probably $200 million a year.
1460
00:48:47,985 –> 00:48:50,425
here in new revenues that the city needs.
1461
00:48:50,465 –> 00:48:51,065
Exactly.
1462
00:48:51,625 –> 00:48:52,025
That’s it.
1463
00:48:52,185 –> 00:48:54,905
So therein lies why they’re going to hit the ground
1464
00:48:54,905 –> 00:48:57,265
running here real shortly with brand new entertainment
1465
00:48:57,265 –> 00:48:57,425
tax.
1466
00:48:57,425 –> 00:48:59,065
Well, it’s called a sales tax.
1467
00:48:59,145 –> 00:49:00,825
So just put entertainment out of your head.
1468
00:49:01,065 –> 00:49:04,305
It starts with it starts with a hockey arena surcharge,
1469
00:49:04,305 –> 00:49:08,105
and then it’s going to slide into restaurants.
1470
00:49:08,105 –> 00:49:10,425
But this is a back-end way to tax the suburbs.
1471
00:49:11,305 –> 00:49:12,825
for the city’s problems.
1472
00:49:12,825 –> 00:49:13,745
Well, and then again,
1473
00:49:13,745 –> 00:49:15,065
Detroit, sorry,
1474
00:49:15,065 –> 00:49:15,625
Washington Post,
1475
00:49:15,625 –> 00:49:16,545
we’re still the poorest,
1476
00:49:16,545 –> 00:49:18,345
largest big city in the country.
1477
00:49:18,425 –> 00:49:20,585
You just priced the city out of using the city.
1478
00:49:20,665 –> 00:49:20,905
Yep.
1479
00:49:22,025 –> 00:49:23,305
So it becomes a romper room.
1480
00:49:23,945 –> 00:49:25,865
This is why everybody’s leaving.
1481
00:49:26,025 –> 00:49:28,985
Now it says the city’s bond rating has gone from junk
1482
00:49:29,145 –> 00:49:30,105
to investor grade.
1483
00:49:30,265 –> 00:49:31,065
This is true.
1484
00:49:31,945 –> 00:49:35,305
Junk to the one notch above junk.
1485
00:49:36,985 –> 00:49:39,225
And if you look at the city’s books,
1486
00:49:39,705 –> 00:49:40,825
There’s no room to borrow.
1487
00:49:40,985 –> 00:49:41,945
There’s no revenue.
1488
00:49:42,185 –> 00:49:43,025
So you can’t,
1489
00:49:43,265 –> 00:49:44,425
what’s to invest in?
1490
00:49:44,985 –> 00:49:45,265
Okay.
1491
00:49:45,305 –> 00:49:45,865
All right.
1492
00:49:45,865 –> 00:49:48,665
Now, but a lot of credit for Detroit’s turnaround goes
1493
00:49:48,665 –> 00:49:49,545
to Mayor Mike Duggan.
1494
00:49:49,785 –> 00:49:52,145
He was a little known former county official when he
1495
00:49:52,145 –> 00:49:54,505
made an unlikely run for mayor in 2013.
1496
00:49:54,745 –> 00:49:57,625
He ran as a write-in candidate in the nonpartisan primary
1497
00:49:57,865 –> 00:50:00,345
after opponents took court action to force him from
1498
00:50:00,345 –> 00:50:02,545
the ballot because he hadn’t lived in the city limits
1499
00:50:02,545 –> 00:50:02,985
long enough.
1500
00:50:02,985 –> 00:50:04,745
He hadn’t lived in the city for a year.
1501
00:50:05,465 –> 00:50:07,945
He lacked the backing of major unions of black churches,
1502
00:50:08,105 –> 00:50:10,625
long prerequisites to winning citywide.
1503
00:50:10,625 –> 00:50:11,865
And he was a white man.
1504
00:50:11,865 –> 00:50:13,625
At least they’re capitalizing white.
1505
00:50:13,705 –> 00:50:16,025
I did notice that when I read it.
1506
00:50:16,185 –> 00:50:16,305
Yeah.
1507
00:50:16,658 –> 00:50:17,418
I never see that.
1508
00:50:17,538 –> 00:50:18,298
Yeah, so that’s fair.
1509
00:50:18,298 –> 00:50:19,498
AP, by the way,
1510
00:50:19,498 –> 00:50:23,658
AP rules say to capitalize black and say not to do
1511
00:50:23,658 –> 00:50:23,898
white.
1512
00:50:24,178 –> 00:50:24,778
Interesting.
1513
00:50:25,778 –> 00:50:28,018
As a white man to be mayor of a city that was 80%
1514
00:50:28,458 –> 00:50:29,898
black and remains so.
1515
00:50:31,298 –> 00:50:34,578
What Duggan had was a track record as a turnaround
1516
00:50:34,578 –> 00:50:37,658
artist, having rescued the financially ailing Detroit
1517
00:50:37,658 –> 00:50:39,818
Medical Center hospital systems.
1518
00:50:41,858 –> 00:50:46,378
when he left and DMC sold out to a private organization,
1519
00:50:46,618 –> 00:50:50,698
they found copious Medicaid fraud.
1520
00:50:50,778 –> 00:50:52,218
They, at the time,
1521
00:50:52,858 –> 00:50:56,298
were fined the largest amount of hospital ever had
1522
00:50:56,298 –> 00:50:59,338
for fraud and kickback in American history.
1523
00:50:59,818 –> 00:51:01,658
Because this place is so corrupt,
1524
00:51:01,898 –> 00:51:02,938
Barbara McQuaid,
1525
00:51:02,938 –> 00:51:03,418
the U.S.
1526
00:51:03,418 –> 00:51:06,858
attorney, now your favorite MSNBC expert,
1527
00:51:07,498 –> 00:51:09,538
and somehow got a job right away at the University
1528
00:51:09,538 –> 00:51:10,938
of Michigan with full tenure.
1529
00:51:11,818 –> 00:51:13,978
Wanted to thank Mike Duggan for reporting,
1530
00:51:14,538 –> 00:51:14,858
you know,
1531
00:51:14,858 –> 00:51:15,738
the oversight.
1532
00:51:18,858 –> 00:51:23,018
Largest Medicaid fraud settlement in history at the
1533
00:51:23,018 –> 00:51:23,338
time.
1534
00:51:23,898 –> 00:51:26,498
Now Detroit is willing to try something new and someone
1535
00:51:26,498 –> 00:51:26,938
new.
1536
00:51:27,178 –> 00:51:27,898
It goes on,
1537
00:51:27,978 –> 00:51:29,258
but they got someone old.
1538
00:51:29,818 –> 00:51:32,058
He focused initially on quality of life issues,
1539
00:51:32,218 –> 00:51:33,818
the mundane stuff of governing.
1540
00:51:33,978 –> 00:51:35,658
He relit the city streetlights.
1541
00:51:36,058 –> 00:51:36,858
That was Dave Bing,
1542
00:51:36,858 –> 00:51:37,498
remember Ken?
1543
00:51:38,458 –> 00:51:38,818
Yep.
1544
00:51:38,938 –> 00:51:40,058
And some of those St.
1545
00:51:40,058 –> 00:51:41,578
lights turned off under Dugan.
1546
00:51:42,298 –> 00:51:42,538
Duggan.
1547
00:51:42,618 –> 00:51:43,458
Duggan, I’m sorry.
1548
00:51:43,458 –> 00:51:44,138
Tell the suburbs.
1549
00:51:44,698 –> 00:51:45,658
Right out in the suburbs.
1550
00:51:46,298 –> 00:51:48,698
40% of which were broken and partnered with businesses
1551
00:51:48,858 –> 00:51:50,298
to install security cameras.
1552
00:51:50,618 –> 00:51:54,978
He demolished almost all of the 47,000 abandoned and
1553
00:51:54,978 –> 00:51:58,458
dilapidated homes that had become eyesores and drug
1554
00:51:58,458 –> 00:51:58,778
dens.
1555
00:51:59,018 –> 00:52:00,298
Well, we’re going to look into that one.
1556
00:52:00,858 –> 00:52:02,218
Almost doing a lot of work there.
1557
00:52:02,218 –> 00:52:04,058
Now we got a problem,
1558
00:52:04,298 –> 00:52:04,938
don’t we?
1559
00:52:05,258 –> 00:52:05,818
Don’t we?
1560
00:52:06,858 –> 00:52:10,378
The population exodus had left behind a large stock
1561
00:52:10,378 –> 00:52:11,298
of fixable homes,
1562
00:52:11,298 –> 00:52:14,018
which attracted young first-time home buyers from
1563
00:52:14,018 –> 00:52:15,018
more expensive markets.
1564
00:52:15,258 –> 00:52:17,578
The flight of business from downtown meant large tracts
1565
00:52:17,698 –> 00:52:19,978
of commercial property were available at discount
1566
00:52:19,978 –> 00:52:20,458
prices.
1567
00:52:20,618 –> 00:52:24,138
Duggan used generous tax breaks and other incentives
1568
00:52:25,018 –> 00:52:26,938
to become a magnet for job creators.
1569
00:52:27,498 –> 00:52:29,018
This was all the oligarchs.
1570
00:52:29,418 –> 00:52:29,858
These are all,
1571
00:52:29,858 –> 00:52:31,618
this is the Gilberton illage.
1572
00:52:31,618 –> 00:52:33,018
What are you talking about?
1573
00:52:33,258 –> 00:52:35,258
Revenue has not grown at all.
1574
00:52:35,578 –> 00:52:37,498
We’re on the fiscal ropes again,
1575
00:52:37,658 –> 00:52:38,778
and that’s why you’re getting out.
1576
00:52:38,778 –> 00:52:39,418
Washington Post,
1577
00:52:39,418 –> 00:52:40,138
give me a call.
1578
00:52:40,378 –> 00:52:43,018
Working with a largely cooperative city council.
1579
00:52:44,138 –> 00:52:47,178
He offered hundreds of millions of dollars in tax abatements.
1580
00:52:47,258 –> 00:52:48,298
It’s in the billions.
1581
00:52:48,538 –> 00:52:49,498
The Ford Motor Company,
1582
00:52:49,498 –> 00:52:50,138
for example,
1583
00:52:50,378 –> 00:52:53,978
received a $104 million break for its renovation of
1584
00:52:53,978 –> 00:52:55,618
the historic Michigan Central Station.
1585
00:52:55,618 –> 00:52:56,698
Did you guys just hear that?
1586
00:52:58,218 –> 00:53:01,098
It was all of us.
1587
00:53:01,098 –> 00:53:02,058
The state gave money.
1588
00:53:02,338 –> 00:53:03,338
Okay, but we go on.
1589
00:53:04,218 –> 00:53:06,618
Another beneficiary was billionaire Dan Gilbert,
1590
00:53:06,778 –> 00:53:09,498
founder of Quicken Loans and owner of the Cleveland
1591
00:53:09,498 –> 00:53:10,138
Cavaliers,
1592
00:53:10,298 –> 00:53:12,618
who bought vast amounts of downtown real estate.
1593
00:53:12,858 –> 00:53:13,898
Gilbert’s latest addition,
1594
00:53:13,898 –> 00:53:14,938
the Detroit skyline,
1595
00:53:15,098 –> 00:53:19,018
is a 681-foot skyscraper for offices and apartments
1596
00:53:19,258 –> 00:53:21,418
on the site of the old Hudson’s department store.
1597
00:53:22,138 –> 00:53:24,058
Long behind budget.
1598
00:53:25,978 –> 00:53:29,738
generously funded every year by the taxpayer of the
1599
00:53:29,738 –> 00:53:30,858
state of Michigan.
1600
00:53:31,418 –> 00:53:34,538
And that’s why you can take 10 years to build an erector
1601
00:53:34,538 –> 00:53:34,858
set.
1602
00:53:34,858 –> 00:53:38,018
You would lose your ass if it wasn’t for us covering
1603
00:53:38,058 –> 00:53:38,858
your loss.
1604
00:53:39,498 –> 00:53:40,538
Come on, post.
1605
00:53:41,098 –> 00:53:43,618
Duggan’s revival strategy has gotten predictable criticism
1606
00:53:43,618 –> 00:53:44,218
from the left.
1607
00:53:44,458 –> 00:53:46,458
I ain’t the left and I ain’t the right.
1608
00:53:46,898 –> 00:53:47,818
I’m just a dude.
1609
00:53:48,138 –> 00:53:48,938
I can count.
1610
00:53:49,338 –> 00:53:51,018
They don’t like tax breaks for the rich.
1611
00:53:53,258 –> 00:53:53,658
I don’t.
1612
00:53:54,938 –> 00:53:56,058
I don’t, not if you don’t need them,
1613
00:53:56,458 –> 00:53:57,898
because that’s called capitalism.
1614
00:53:58,778 –> 00:54:00,138
Risk, reward.
1615
00:54:02,378 –> 00:54:04,578
And complain that the benefits of redevelopment have
1616
00:54:04,578 –> 00:54:05,898
been too slow to trickle down.
1617
00:54:05,898 –> 00:54:07,178
They have not trickled down,
1618
00:54:07,418 –> 00:54:09,098
but Detroiters have liked what they’ve got.
1619
00:54:09,258 –> 00:54:11,458
Douglas was reelected twice with over 70%.
1620
00:54:12,698 –> 00:54:15,138
The mayor opted not to seek a fourth term so he can
1621
00:54:15,138 –> 00:54:17,818
run for governor in 2026 as an independent.
1622
00:54:17,978 –> 00:54:18,378
Why?
1623
00:54:19,418 –> 00:54:20,378
We’ve already discussed this.
1624
00:54:20,378 –> 00:54:21,458
Why would you be an independent?
1625
00:54:21,818 –> 00:54:25,978
He’s polling equally with Jocelyn Benson in Detroit.
1626
00:54:28,218 –> 00:54:29,818
DeLorean in Detroit.
1627
00:54:29,898 –> 00:54:30,178
I know.
1628
00:54:30,298 –> 00:54:30,858
This is your.
1629
00:54:31,258 –> 00:54:32,458
Hey, we for 70%.
1630
00:54:32,618 –> 00:54:33,578
Then why aren’t you getting,
1631
00:54:33,738 –> 00:54:34,778
why aren’t you getting 70%
1632
00:54:34,778 –> 00:54:36,378
against against Benson?
1633
00:54:36,458 –> 00:54:37,738
There’s slight buyer’s remorse,
1634
00:54:37,738 –> 00:54:38,138
isn’t there?
1635
00:54:38,298 –> 00:54:38,818
I don’t.
1636
00:54:39,178 –> 00:54:41,178
I just, I smell bullshit.
1637
00:54:42,258 –> 00:54:42,978
What I leave off.
1638
00:54:43,018 –> 00:54:45,178
Okay, the leading candidate in the polls replace him
1639
00:54:45,418 –> 00:54:47,418
in the November 4th mayoral election.
1640
00:54:47,658 –> 00:54:49,618
City Council President Mary Sheffield.
1641
00:54:51,858 –> 00:54:53,098
getting to know her.
1642
00:54:53,898 –> 00:54:54,778
Getting to know her.
1643
00:54:57,498 –> 00:55:01,778
Promises to continue Duggan’s policies while also,
1644
00:55:01,818 –> 00:55:02,298
oh, yeah,
1645
00:55:02,458 –> 00:55:03,578
demolition policies.
1646
00:55:04,578 –> 00:55:07,058
While also offering what she calls a more progressive
1647
00:55:07,058 –> 00:55:08,378
and people-centered agenda.
1648
00:55:08,938 –> 00:55:12,618
What enabled Duggan’s Detroit’s turnaround is no secret.
1649
00:55:13,178 –> 00:55:15,458
Make hard choices to get the fiscal house in order.
1650
00:55:16,218 –> 00:55:17,898
I thought it was Kevin Orr.
1651
00:55:18,858 –> 00:55:21,738
I thought that was the emergency manager that left
1652
00:55:21,738 –> 00:55:24,378
you the keys to the car and you drove it off a cliff.
1653
00:55:24,618 –> 00:55:25,178
Just watch,
1654
00:55:25,178 –> 00:55:25,738
folks.
1655
00:55:26,938 –> 00:55:28,698
Instead of promising free stuff,
1656
00:55:28,698 –> 00:55:30,218
the city cannot afford.
1657
00:55:30,778 –> 00:55:32,138
But he gave free stuff away.
1658
00:55:32,298 –> 00:55:33,098
They just said it.
1659
00:55:35,018 –> 00:55:37,258
Partner with business and investors instead of chasing
1660
00:55:37,258 –> 00:55:39,698
them away with higher corporate taxes and so-called
1661
00:55:39,698 –> 00:55:40,698
millionaires taxes.
1662
00:55:40,938 –> 00:55:44,458
Focus on reducing crime instead of demonizing and defunding
1663
00:55:44,458 –> 00:55:45,098
the police.
1664
00:55:46,218 –> 00:55:47,018
If Democratics,
1665
00:55:47,018 –> 00:55:47,658
here’s yours.
1666
00:55:47,658 –> 00:55:48,378
This is why I was,
1667
00:55:48,538 –> 00:55:49,218
see, it’s not about,
1668
00:55:49,218 –> 00:55:51,898
let me read it and then we go there.
1669
00:55:52,378 –> 00:55:56,298
If Democratic socialist Zoran Mamdani wins the mayor’s
1670
00:55:56,298 –> 00:55:57,258
race in New York,
1671
00:55:57,498 –> 00:55:59,898
he’d be wise to take a trip to Detroit.
1672
00:56:00,298 –> 00:56:02,058
Mayor Duggan has lessons to offer.
1673
00:56:03,258 –> 00:56:03,658
I’ll make,
1674
00:56:03,738 –> 00:56:05,178
I’ll just make one point on this.
1675
00:56:05,578 –> 00:56:07,098
The framing on this is interesting.
1676
00:56:07,098 –> 00:56:09,658
I know you’re catching what’s going on in this.
1677
00:56:09,658 –> 00:56:12,538
isn’t a letter fluffing up Duggan.
1678
00:56:13,378 –> 00:56:13,978
Because most,
1679
00:56:14,218 –> 00:56:15,098
Duggan, most
1680
00:56:15,578 –> 00:56:18,138
Most Michigan voters don’t read the Washington Post.
1681
00:56:18,138 –> 00:56:18,498
Right.
1682
00:56:19,178 –> 00:56:24,618
That’s a letter to the far left in New York trying
1683
00:56:24,618 –> 00:56:25,378
to, that’s the,
1684
00:56:25,738 –> 00:56:28,538
that’s the effete New Yorkers.
1685
00:56:29,338 –> 00:56:31,178
sending a message to Zamdani,
1686
00:56:31,498 –> 00:56:33,618
please don’t screw us over too hard when you become
1687
00:56:33,618 –> 00:56:33,978
mayor.
1688
00:56:34,138 –> 00:56:35,378
That’s the whole point of that.
1689
00:56:35,378 –> 00:56:35,938
I don’t think so,
1690
00:56:36,058 –> 00:56:37,658
but you can believe that.
1691
00:56:38,978 –> 00:56:40,778
What they’re proselytizing,
1692
00:56:40,778 –> 00:56:45,138
though, within that is the tax breaks to the billionaires,
1693
00:56:45,178 –> 00:56:46,098
to the oligarchs.
1694
00:56:46,098 –> 00:56:49,098
I mean, they are proselytizing that to Zamdani.
1695
00:56:49,098 –> 00:56:49,818
I will say this,
1696
00:56:49,978 –> 00:56:50,458
when you
1697
00:56:51,258 –> 00:56:55,018
The secret of the Detroit story is that every other
1698
00:56:55,018 –> 00:56:59,498
city has gone to shit at the same time that Duggan
1699
00:56:59,498 –> 00:57:02,658
has kept plate spinning and kept the facade of the
1700
00:57:02,658 –> 00:57:03,578
city looking good.
1701
00:57:03,898 –> 00:57:06,618
But the bill that’s going to come due for Detroit,
1702
00:57:06,858 –> 00:57:08,978
relative to the bills that are going to come to the
1703
00:57:09,058 –> 00:57:10,338
other big cities around the country,
1704
00:57:10,338 –> 00:57:13,138
is going to be big and Sheffield’s going to be the
1705
00:57:13,138 –> 00:57:15,458
one that’s got to navigate through the shit storm
1706
00:57:15,458 –> 00:57:15,978
when it hits,
1707
00:57:15,978 –> 00:57:17,818
because we already talked about all the problems the
1708
00:57:17,818 –> 00:57:18,538
city’s facing.
1709
00:57:18,938 –> 00:57:21,098
but there’s a lot more that you haven’t talked about
1710
00:57:21,098 –> 00:57:22,858
that are going to become big ass problems.
1711
00:57:23,178 –> 00:57:24,618
I don’t think she’s equipped for it.
1712
00:57:25,178 –> 00:57:29,418
She’s a junior varsity member of the machine and she
1713
00:57:29,418 –> 00:57:32,058
is at best going to be an avatar for the oligarchs.
1714
00:57:32,258 –> 00:57:32,578
Agreed.
1715
00:57:32,578 –> 00:57:32,978
I agree.
1716
00:57:32,978 –> 00:57:34,938
And then I’m going to tell you what I think this is.
1717
00:57:37,098 –> 00:57:38,458
New Yorkers don’t read this.
1718
00:57:38,698 –> 00:57:39,978
They read the Post.
1719
00:57:39,978 –> 00:57:42,218
They read the Daily News and the sophisticated ones
1720
00:57:42,218 –> 00:57:43,258
read the New York Times.
1721
00:57:43,898 –> 00:57:45,178
This was purchased.
1722
00:57:45,498 –> 00:57:46,298
There’s a whole
1723
00:57:47,098 –> 00:57:47,658
game going on,
1724
00:57:47,738 –> 00:57:47,978
right?
1725
00:57:47,978 –> 00:57:48,618
You deal with it.
1726
00:57:48,618 –> 00:57:49,978
PR, you call your people,
1727
00:57:50,218 –> 00:57:50,498
right?
1728
00:57:50,618 –> 00:57:51,738
You arrange this stuff.
1729
00:57:52,058 –> 00:57:53,658
This was meant for us.
1730
00:57:54,538 –> 00:57:56,218
This was written for us,
1731
00:57:56,378 –> 00:57:58,698
for him to become governor.
1732
00:57:58,698 –> 00:57:59,218
That’s a, that’s a,
1733
00:57:59,218 –> 00:58:00,138
that’s an ad.
1734
00:58:00,298 –> 00:58:00,898
You agree with that?
1735
00:58:00,938 –> 00:58:01,698
Yeah, I agree with that.
1736
00:58:01,698 –> 00:58:02,618
That’s what I see it as.
1737
00:58:03,378 –> 00:58:05,098
Again, no disrespect,
1738
00:58:05,178 –> 00:58:08,698
but that’s just like the billboards that you’re seeing
1739
00:58:08,698 –> 00:58:12,218
up and down 75 that have Governing Magazine calling
1740
00:58:12,218 –> 00:58:12,858
Duggan.
1741
00:58:13,658 –> 00:58:15,018
the best mayor in America.
1742
00:58:15,018 –> 00:58:17,498
I guarantee you’re going to see quotes pulled from
1743
00:58:17,498 –> 00:58:19,538
this throughout his campaign,
1744
00:58:19,978 –> 00:58:21,818
validating him.
1745
00:58:22,298 –> 00:58:25,818
Well, he’s already retweeted it and posted it on Instagram,
1746
00:58:26,058 –> 00:58:26,378
you know,
1747
00:58:26,458 –> 00:58:28,218
segments from the story repeatedly.
1748
00:58:28,218 –> 00:58:29,738
So my only thought is,
1749
00:58:29,778 –> 00:58:31,898
and I agree with everything you guys are saying,
1750
00:58:31,898 –> 00:58:34,538
my only thought is I find it highly questionable that
1751
00:58:34,538 –> 00:58:37,298
your average working class Michigan resident reads
1752
00:58:37,298 –> 00:58:37,978
the Wapple.
1753
00:58:38,298 –> 00:58:38,778
No, they don’t,
1754
00:58:38,778 –> 00:58:40,938
but they’re going to read these quotes and TV ads
1755
00:58:40,938 –> 00:58:41,498
and billboards.
1756
00:58:41,658 –> 00:58:44,578
I didn’t think of that.
1757
00:58:44,578 –> 00:58:44,938
You’re right.
1758
00:58:44,978 –> 00:58:45,858
Yeah, that’s what it is.
1759
00:58:45,938 –> 00:58:47,058
Now I am.
1760
00:58:47,218 –> 00:58:47,698
So I’ll be.
1761
00:58:47,938 –> 00:58:49,618
So I’ll be driving up north to Gaylor.
1762
00:58:49,618 –> 00:58:50,218
Hey, Mike.
1763
00:58:50,218 –> 00:58:51,058
Shut the fuck up.
1764
00:58:53,498 –> 00:58:54,538
Fucking perspire in me.
1765
00:58:54,538 –> 00:58:55,298
Put my Mando on.
1766
00:58:55,618 –> 00:58:56,338
You’re sweating.
1767
00:58:56,898 –> 00:58:57,258
I am.
1768
00:58:57,258 –> 00:58:59,258
This is so hard.
1769
00:59:00,498 –> 00:59:01,458
This is so hard.
1770
00:59:03,058 –> 00:59:03,698
It is.
1771
00:59:03,858 –> 00:59:05,218
Man, it makes me sweat.
1772
00:59:05,538 –> 00:59:06,658
It makes me fidget.
1773
00:59:07,458 –> 00:59:08,498
Makes me tweak.
1774
00:59:09,698 –> 00:59:10,898
All I got’s the lions.
1775
00:59:10,898 –> 00:59:12,018
It is football season.
1776
00:59:12,018 –> 00:59:13,218
The grass smells fresh.
1777
00:59:13,858 –> 00:59:15,458
And I just got this box of Mando.
1778
00:59:15,698 –> 00:59:16,978
Is that extra strength you’re putting on?
1779
00:59:17,538 –> 00:59:18,978
Dude, this shit is nice,
1780
00:59:18,978 –> 00:59:19,378
man.
1781
00:59:20,018 –> 00:59:20,658
It’s light,
1782
00:59:22,738 –> 00:59:26,978
citricy, and it stops you sweating before you get
1783
00:59:26,978 –> 00:59:27,098
there.
1784
00:59:27,098 –> 00:59:27,738
Just give it a smell.
1785
00:59:27,778 –> 00:59:28,578
Just give it a smell.
1786
00:59:28,818 –> 00:59:30,018
It really is quite nice.
1787
00:59:30,578 –> 00:59:32,818
Your armpit smells great too.
1788
00:59:32,818 –> 00:59:33,338
I’m good.
1789
00:59:34,258 –> 00:59:34,738
You want to try?
1790
00:59:34,738 –> 00:59:35,818
You want to try some body?
1791
00:59:35,938 –> 00:59:36,178
No.
1792
00:59:36,738 –> 00:59:38,018
So we I got.
1793
00:59:39,618 –> 00:59:41,378
The stick deodorant with sweat control,
1794
00:59:41,378 –> 00:59:42,898
whole body deodorant here.
1795
00:59:43,138 –> 00:59:44,258
The spray is just good.
1796
00:59:44,418 –> 00:59:44,938
It’s good stuff.
1797
00:59:45,138 –> 00:59:46,418
For pits, packages,
1798
00:59:46,418 –> 00:59:46,938
and feet.
1799
00:59:47,058 –> 00:59:48,018
It’s for dudes.
1800
00:59:48,178 –> 00:59:48,978
Don’t buy the bull.
1801
00:59:49,138 –> 00:59:52,018
You know, you’re going to CVS and you get the whatever
1802
00:59:52,018 –> 00:59:52,738
fucking stick,
1803
00:59:53,058 –> 00:59:54,298
the green and black one or whatever.
1804
00:59:54,298 –> 00:59:54,778
Right card.
1805
00:59:54,898 –> 00:59:55,778
Yeah, right card.
1806
00:59:55,858 –> 00:59:58,658
That you need the attendant to unlock the glass to
1807
00:59:58,658 –> 00:59:59,058
get to.
1808
00:59:59,058 –> 01:00:01,458
Yeah, this can be shipped right to your house.
1809
01:00:01,618 –> 01:00:02,498
Get the box.
1810
01:00:02,738 –> 01:00:04,338
Perfect for new customers.
1811
01:00:04,418 –> 01:00:05,618
Solid stick deodorant,
1812
01:00:05,938 –> 01:00:06,338
cream.
1813
01:00:06,898 –> 01:00:07,738
Tube deodorant,
1814
01:00:07,738 –> 01:00:10,658
two free products of your choice like mini body wash
1815
01:00:10,818 –> 01:00:11,778
and deodorant wipes.
1816
01:00:12,658 –> 01:00:13,538
Karen likes these.
1817
01:00:14,498 –> 01:00:15,858
Acidified deodorant wipes.
1818
01:00:16,098 –> 01:00:16,818
Okay, anyway,
1819
01:00:17,218 –> 01:00:19,938
you go to shopmando.com.
1820
01:00:20,018 –> 01:00:22,018
S-H-O-P-M-A-N-D-O.com.
1821
01:00:22,018 –> 01:00:23,138
Shopmando.com.
1822
01:00:23,458 –> 01:00:24,898
Mention no BS,
1823
01:00:24,898 –> 01:00:25,218
20% off.
1824
01:00:25,938 –> 01:00:27,458
I actually am using this.
1825
01:00:27,458 –> 01:00:30,738
I don’t really use it.
1826
01:00:30,738 –> 01:00:31,298
I don’t need it.
1827
01:00:31,858 –> 01:00:33,538
It’s an upgrade from what you were doing.
1828
01:00:33,858 –> 01:00:34,658
Yeah, it was kind of,
1829
01:00:34,658 –> 01:00:35,058
wasn’t it?
1830
01:00:35,258 –> 01:00:35,618
was nothing.
1831
01:00:36,018 –> 01:00:36,658
Oh, you know what?
1832
01:00:37,138 –> 01:00:38,578
I’m going to be honest about it.
1833
01:00:38,578 –> 01:00:39,218
Do they have patchouli?
1834
01:00:39,218 –> 01:00:42,418
You know, sometimes like you drink too much coffee,
1835
01:00:42,418 –> 01:00:43,458
you have too much beer,
1836
01:00:43,618 –> 01:00:43,858
you know,
1837
01:00:43,858 –> 01:00:45,298
the next day your ass is stinging.
1838
01:00:47,618 –> 01:00:48,938
It’s pH’d it right out,
1839
01:00:48,938 –> 01:00:49,258
dude.
1840
01:00:49,258 –> 01:00:49,538
I was like,
1841
01:00:49,538 –> 01:00:50,738
it’s a fucking miracle.
1842
01:00:51,218 –> 01:00:51,618
Now to do it,
1843
01:00:51,618 –> 01:00:52,498
does it smell good?
1844
01:00:52,498 –> 01:00:53,338
Stop the sweating.
1845
01:00:54,018 –> 01:00:55,778
It got my pH level just right.
1846
01:00:56,178 –> 01:00:57,178
ShopMando.com.
1847
01:01:03,218 –> 01:01:03,778
It’s true.
1848
01:01:04,738 –> 01:01:06,418
I think they’re going to increase the size of their
1849
01:01:06,418 –> 01:01:06,778
sponsors.
1850
01:01:06,778 –> 01:01:07,538
Send me some more,
1851
01:01:07,538 –> 01:01:08,098
Mando.
1852
01:01:09,138 –> 01:01:10,258
Hey, Ken, did you get yours yet?
1853
01:01:10,858 –> 01:01:11,618
What are you thinking?
1854
01:01:12,578 –> 01:01:13,538
I haven’t opened it yet.
1855
01:01:13,538 –> 01:01:14,338
Oh, he hasn’t opened it yet.
1856
01:01:14,498 –> 01:01:15,618
Let me get some of yours.
1857
01:01:15,778 –> 01:01:16,578
Let’s go for the ass,
1858
01:01:16,578 –> 01:01:16,978
bro.
1859
01:01:16,978 –> 01:01:17,858
I wonder what smelled.
1860
01:01:18,818 –> 01:01:20,178
We sprayed it all over the show.
1861
01:01:20,178 –> 01:01:20,898
It’s so ass.
1862
01:01:22,578 –> 01:01:22,818
All right.
1863
01:01:22,818 –> 01:01:24,178
Now, real quick,
1864
01:01:24,418 –> 01:01:25,938
it’s the holiday season.
1865
01:01:25,938 –> 01:01:27,338
We linked this into
1866
01:01:27,978 –> 01:01:31,458
Who is going to enter into an ethics violation in the
1867
01:01:31,458 –> 01:01:31,938
city?
1868
01:01:32,258 –> 01:01:33,618
Mark, play one of my fa-
1869
01:01:33,698 –> 01:01:35,058
clip from one of my favorite movies.
1870
01:01:38,578 –> 01:01:39,858
You don’t need to be scared.
1871
01:01:40,258 –> 01:01:41,138
It’s just me,
1872
01:01:41,498 –> 01:01:42,178
Dana Nessel.
1873
01:01:49,698 –> 01:01:52,098
Well, quick news on Dana.
1874
01:01:53,618 –> 01:01:54,738
You’re supposed to show up.
1875
01:01:55,618 –> 01:01:56,338
For your hearing,
1876
01:01:56,338 –> 01:01:57,218
November 4th,
1877
01:01:57,698 –> 01:01:58,498
raise your hand,
1878
01:01:58,498 –> 01:01:59,538
swear on the Bible,
1879
01:01:59,778 –> 01:02:00,738
bring the documents.
1880
01:02:00,978 –> 01:02:03,978
House Oversight wants to talk to you about the old
1881
01:02:03,978 –> 01:02:06,898
lady with the brain damage and a couple of other things.
1882
01:02:07,698 –> 01:02:08,938
I don’t think you’ve responded.
1883
01:02:08,938 –> 01:02:10,818
I don’t think you’ve responded.
1884
01:02:11,538 –> 01:02:12,178
If you don’t,
1885
01:02:12,658 –> 01:02:13,458
this is just a guess.
1886
01:02:14,098 –> 01:02:15,218
It ain’t going to turn out well.
1887
01:02:16,458 –> 01:02:17,618
What a show this is.
1888
01:02:18,098 –> 01:02:19,138
a show.
1889
01:02:19,138 –> 01:02:20,738
It’s fucking red hot.
1890
01:02:20,818 –> 01:02:22,178
It’s popping like crickets on a griddle,
1891
01:02:22,178 –> 01:02:22,458
Bernie.
1892
01:02:22,458 –> 01:02:24,098
Bring your man crack.
1893
01:02:27,858 –> 01:02:29,098
He’s losing his man crack.
1894
01:02:29,298 –> 01:02:30,258
He’s lost a lot of weight.
1895
01:02:30,338 –> 01:02:32,178
No matter the size of your man crack,
1896
01:02:33,218 –> 01:02:34,338
Mando straightened it right out,
1897
01:02:34,378 –> 01:02:34,658
bro.
1898
01:02:36,498 –> 01:02:37,458
Okay, and finally,
1899
01:02:38,658 –> 01:02:39,858
I got another letter.
1900
01:02:41,858 –> 01:02:43,138
This has fucked up the internet.
1901
01:02:44,418 –> 01:02:45,778
I can’t believe we get letters.
1902
01:02:46,098 –> 01:02:50,098
I got a letter from Gregory Baltiff,
1903
01:02:51,138 –> 01:02:53,138
AKA Mr.
1904
01:02:53,138 –> 01:02:53,858
Positive.
1905
01:02:54,498 –> 01:02:56,178
I thought we’d all open it together.
1906
01:02:56,658 –> 01:02:57,498
Oh, it’s unopened.
1907
01:02:57,498 –> 01:02:57,938
Unopened.
1908
01:02:58,298 –> 01:03:00,178
I remember him from back in the 90s.
1909
01:03:00,738 –> 01:03:01,418
He’s still around,
1910
01:03:01,418 –> 01:03:01,538
bro.
1911
01:03:01,538 –> 01:03:02,098
He’s still around.
1912
01:03:02,098 –> 01:03:02,978
Oh, he’s on Cuomo.
1913
01:03:02,978 –> 01:03:04,098
He’s on Stephen A.
1914
01:03:04,338 –> 01:03:06,338
He was a regular at Powerhouse Gym in Canton.
1915
01:03:06,338 –> 01:03:07,258
I used to see him every day.
1916
01:03:07,258 –> 01:03:08,098
What was he doing?
1917
01:03:08,098 –> 01:03:09,458
Just, talking.
1918
01:03:09,458 –> 01:03:10,098
You can do it,
1919
01:03:10,098 –> 01:03:10,578
brother.
1920
01:03:10,858 –> 01:03:11,578
Be positive,
1921
01:03:11,578 –> 01:03:11,938
brother.
1922
01:03:11,938 –> 01:03:12,378
I’m more.
1923
01:03:12,378 –> 01:03:13,058
The ultimate spotter.
1924
01:03:13,138 –> 01:03:14,178
The ultimate spotter.
1925
01:03:14,498 –> 01:03:17,538
Here we go,
1926
01:03:17,538 –> 01:03:17,818
Mr.
1927
01:03:17,818 –> 01:03:18,418
Positive.
1928
01:03:18,978 –> 01:03:21,058
Would you send me your crazy old guy?
1929
01:03:23,138 –> 01:03:23,858
Anthrax.
1930
01:03:25,858 –> 01:03:26,378
Oh my God.
1931
01:03:26,658 –> 01:03:27,058
Wow.
1932
01:03:27,458 –> 01:03:30,258
Out of his trapper keeper.
1933
01:03:30,418 –> 01:03:32,698
He wrote it on like some 6th grader paper.
1934
01:03:32,818 –> 01:03:33,378
Oh, that’s great.
1935
01:03:33,378 –> 01:03:34,338
Look, notebook paper.
1936
01:03:34,338 –> 01:03:34,738
I love that.
1937
01:03:35,058 –> 01:03:36,138
Oh, $100 bill.
1938
01:03:36,378 –> 01:03:36,618
Nice.
1939
01:03:36,818 –> 01:03:37,218
What?
1940
01:03:37,378 –> 01:03:37,818
Paola.
1941
01:03:37,818 –> 01:03:38,018
Graft.
1942
01:03:38,578 –> 01:03:39,018
Graft.
1943
01:03:39,018 –> 01:03:40,098
Should I do it in his voice?
1944
01:03:41,058 –> 01:03:42,978
Do it in his voice.
1945
01:03:43,458 –> 01:03:44,178
Warriors.
1946
01:03:44,338 –> 01:03:45,298
Warriors.
1947
01:03:46,018 –> 01:03:46,978
Sir Charles.
1948
01:03:47,658 –> 01:03:48,178
Thanks.
1949
01:03:48,578 –> 01:03:49,618
Go out to dinner.
1950
01:03:50,098 –> 01:03:50,498
Mr.
1951
01:03:50,498 –> 01:03:52,698
Positive loved you.
1952
01:03:52,738 –> 01:03:53,698
changed my life.
1953
01:03:54,178 –> 01:03:55,458
Oh, look at that.
1954
01:03:55,698 –> 01:03:56,338
That’s nice.
1955
01:03:56,338 –> 01:03:57,058
That’s great.
1956
01:03:58,098 –> 01:03:58,658
That’s really nice.
1957
01:03:58,658 –> 01:03:59,778
You know what I’m going to do with that?
1958
01:04:00,818 –> 01:04:01,138
Mr.
1959
01:04:01,138 –> 01:04:01,778
Positive.
1960
01:04:02,578 –> 01:04:04,258
I haven’t seen him in 20 years.
1961
01:04:04,258 –> 01:04:05,098
Twenty-five years ago.
1962
01:04:05,098 –> 01:04:05,738
Do we got any of his?
1963
01:04:05,818 –> 01:04:06,818
You couldn’t find it right away,
1964
01:04:06,818 –> 01:04:07,098
could you?
1965
01:04:07,098 –> 01:04:07,378
I don’t know,
1966
01:04:07,458 –> 01:04:08,338
not that quick.
1967
01:04:08,498 –> 01:04:09,098
Yeah, Mark’s like,
1968
01:04:09,098 –> 01:04:09,298
nah.
1969
01:04:09,538 –> 01:04:10,258
For Drew’s show,
1970
01:04:10,258 –> 01:04:10,898
he’d find it.
1971
01:04:11,458 –> 01:04:13,698
No, I don’t think I’d find it that quick either.
1972
01:04:13,698 –> 01:04:15,058
Don’t forget there’s the Soul,
1973
01:04:15,218 –> 01:04:19,138
the Red Shovel Network Consortium of podcasts.
1974
01:04:19,778 –> 01:04:23,218
Solo Detroit with ML Elric and the Drew Lane Show.
1975
01:04:23,458 –> 01:04:25,058
Biggest, biggest show in Michigan,
1976
01:04:25,058 –> 01:04:26,498
one of the biggest ones in the country.
1977
01:04:26,898 –> 01:04:28,258
I am going to take this 100.
1978
01:04:30,098 –> 01:04:30,658
Get to know it.
1979
01:04:30,658 –> 01:04:34,218
I’m going to buy some hungry people some dogs.
1980
01:04:34,218 –> 01:04:34,418
Great.
1981
01:04:34,418 –> 01:04:34,978
Outstanding.
1982
01:04:35,258 –> 01:04:35,458
Awesome.
1983
01:04:35,618 –> 01:04:35,978
All right.
1984
01:04:36,258 –> 01:04:36,578
Okay.
1985
01:04:37,178 –> 01:04:37,778
Want a beer too?
1986
01:04:38,498 –> 01:04:41,498
I said I do what I say I’m going to do.
1987
01:04:41,498 –> 01:04:42,658
I’m going to get Jason fed.
1988
01:04:42,658 –> 01:04:43,498
All right.
1989
01:04:43,498 –> 01:04:44,818
Thank you all very much.
1990
01:04:45,218 –> 01:04:46,178
Fight to power.
1991
01:04:46,818 –> 01:04:47,218
Vote.
1992
01:04:48,138 –> 01:04:50,978
vote off and apparently can vote every day.
1993
01:04:50,978 –> 01:04:52,978
Well, let me plug my piece.
1994
01:04:52,978 –> 01:04:54,298
Yeah, I thought you did earlier.
1995
01:04:54,298 –> 01:04:54,818
No, not yet.
1996
01:04:54,818 –> 01:04:56,098
I got a tomorrow.
1997
01:04:56,098 –> 01:04:57,138
I think tomorrow.
1998
01:04:57,138 –> 01:04:57,738
If not tomorrow,
1999
01:04:57,738 –> 01:04:58,498
it’ll be Friday.
2000
01:04:58,618 –> 01:04:59,698
I got a piece dropping.
2001
01:05:00,658 –> 01:05:01,218
It’s tomorrow.
2002
01:05:01,298 –> 01:05:02,258
Enjoyer.com.
2003
01:05:02,258 –> 01:05:03,058
Enjoyer.com.
2004
01:05:03,098 –> 01:05:04,098
Story and a video.
2005
01:05:04,178 –> 01:05:08,178
I’m putting my thoughts out on this smokeless tobacco
2006
01:05:08,178 –> 01:05:11,858
dip and Zen ban that the Detroit City Council has
2007
01:05:12,498 –> 01:05:15,858
voted into place by 7 to 2 and Ken and I
2008
01:05:16,778 –> 01:05:17,538
The enjoyer,
2009
01:05:17,738 –> 01:05:19,218
our enjoyer video guy,
2010
01:05:19,218 –> 01:05:23,218
we went and we violated that ban Saturday night at
2011
01:05:23,218 –> 01:05:24,258
the Red Wing game.
2012
01:05:24,938 –> 01:05:25,818
Ethics violations.
2013
01:05:25,938 –> 01:05:29,538
We got ethics violations coming and we proudly violated
2014
01:05:29,538 –> 01:05:29,698
it.
2015
01:05:30,258 –> 01:05:31,698
So this isn’t a correction,
2016
01:05:32,258 –> 01:05:33,618
but by your reporting,
2017
01:05:35,058 –> 01:05:37,218
I owe a slight apology to Chris Ilitch.
2018
01:05:38,258 –> 01:05:42,578
I blamed him for not having a smoking area at Tiger
2019
01:05:42,578 –> 01:05:44,858
Stadium and it wasn’t his idea at all.
2020
01:05:44,858 –> 01:05:45,858
It was city councils?
2021
01:05:47,458 –> 01:05:48,458
This is what they’re doing.
2022
01:05:48,458 –> 01:05:48,978
Oh, by the way,
2023
01:05:49,338 –> 01:05:54,098
in a place full of beer that broadcasts on a fucking
2024
01:05:54,098 –> 01:05:55,218
gambling platform.
2025
01:05:55,458 –> 01:05:56,898
And the problem is tobacco.
2026
01:05:57,298 –> 01:06:02,018
And Ken and I had to wade through what about a block
2027
01:06:02,018 –> 01:06:04,258
of marijuana smoke to get into the building.
2028
01:06:04,458 –> 01:06:07,218
What’s fuck you guys,
2029
01:06:07,218 –> 01:06:07,538
man?
2030
01:06:07,538 –> 01:06:10,538
Like now you want to get rid of booze and weed and
2031
01:06:10,538 –> 01:06:10,938
gambling?
2032
01:06:11,058 –> 01:06:11,898
Is that your answer?
2033
01:06:11,898 –> 01:06:14,018
I don’t want to taxing these sins.
2034
01:06:14,178 –> 01:06:14,978
I’m not complaining.
2035
01:06:14,978 –> 01:06:16,418
I just want to be able to dip and watch.
2036
01:06:16,898 –> 01:06:20,218
No, I had a cigarette.
2037
01:06:20,298 –> 01:06:21,138
My God.
2038
01:06:23,458 –> 01:06:23,778
By the way,
2039
01:06:23,778 –> 01:06:24,498
Dylan Larkin,
2040
01:06:24,498 –> 01:06:26,418
playing fantastic.
2041
01:06:26,498 –> 01:06:28,138
Best hockey I’ve ever seen in my life.
2042
01:06:28,138 –> 01:06:28,818
That’s excellent.
2043
01:06:28,818 –> 01:06:29,938
Save it for your podcast.
2044
01:06:32,698 –> 01:06:33,858
But thanks for being here.
2045
01:06:34,098 –> 01:06:34,898
Jason Murray,
2046
01:06:34,898 –> 01:06:36,578
the Michigan Enjoyer,
2047
01:06:36,578 –> 01:06:37,618
enjoyer.com.
2048
01:06:38,018 –> 01:06:38,618
And Jason Rowe,
2049
01:06:38,618 –> 01:06:41,458
all things political everywhere across planet Earth.
2050
01:06:41,778 –> 01:06:42,218
Thanks, boys.
2051
01:06:42,218 –> 01:06:42,458
Welcome.
2052
01:06:44,058 –> 01:06:44,258
See you.
