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Crime without Punishment

That is the state of government and the bureaucracy in America on all levels.

Crime without Punishment. Paychecks without competence.

The burning of toxic chemicals in East Palestine, Ohio was a war crime.

When burned, vinyl chloride transfors into phosgene, the most deadly gas used in WWI and banned by the Geneva convention. Enough was dropped on Ohio in one day to equal 2% of the total used in the War to End all Wars.

Who allowed this? Mike Dewine, the Republican governor of Ohio; Josh Shapiro, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, President Joe Biden knew, as did Pete Buttigieg, the Secretary of Transportation, and a raft of mid-level bureaucrats. And of course, the executives of Norfolk Southern Railroad. Democrats and Republicans and Kleptocrats who need to be shown a jail cell.

And why is the poisoned dirt being trucked to Michigan? Who allowed this? Where is Democratic governor Gretchen Whitmer and Dana Nessel, the attorney general? Did the feds notify them?

And what is happening with the federal investigation into the use of poisoned dirty in Mayor Mike Duggan’s failed and scandal plagued demoliton program?

Why does the Lansing Police Department refuse to answer questions about their visit to the Michigan State gunman’s home just eight days prior to his rampage?

DTE is a failure. Profit over People. Profit over Power. Pigs in the executive sute grow fat while our mothers grow numb in freezing and darkened homes.

And where is the nursing home investigation? Michigan flunked another federal nuring home audit. Where is Ms. Nessel on that one? Gray lives should matter.

Wuhan, rememeber that place? The epicenter of the Covid virus? The U.S. Department of Energy now believes the virus most likely came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The FBI believes the same. Other American inteligence agencies still believe the farmers market bat meat theory.

All are credible, so why are rational thinkers still considered kooks, conspiratorialsts and racists?

A disease should not be a political billiard ball.


Speaker 1 (00:09):
One minute, Mr. Your cigarette, Mr. Led

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Free light. Mr. LeDuff.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Your beer. Mr.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
You roll. Mr. LeDuff. Find the air. 4, 3, 2, 1.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh, shit. The power went out again.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Live downtown Detroit. It’s

Speaker 1 (01:26):

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Breaking do bullshit. Do more bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, bring it up. What’s up, Karen?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I don’t know. Charlie, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Hi, Jasmine Barmore from the Free Press. How are you? I’m

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Good, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
How are you? Is she up? You got her mic? Yeah. Good checking. Check, check. Sorry.

Hi, jazz. You all right? I’m good. How are you? You’ve been beating the streets. Yeah, I’ve been out here. Power’s out. We’ll get to that. Oh, this is a mess. But first I want to offer this open letter to the Lansing Police Department’s public information officer, subject matter Ms. U’S Mass shooting. Madam, I’m confused. We spoke last week. My question was clear, and you seem to understand it. What were the circumstances surrounding the Lansing Police Department’s welfare check to the Gunman’s house just eight days before his rampage on the campus of Michigan State University. A few days after the tragedy, Lansing chief of Police, ERY Sabe, made a statement to reporters. I’d like to clear up a few topics of misinformation. He said L P D has not responded to any welfare checks for Anthony. There was a check at the address on House Street on February 5th, but was not related to the accused.

And the L P D has not been called in any way to shots fired at this address. Well, madam, the Chief’s statement clouds the issue rather than clarifies it. If the Lansing police responded to the home of a mass murderer just a week and the day before his shooting storm, what were the circumstances of that call? Who specifically were the police checking on who called the police? What was the outcome of the investigation? What was said in the officer’s written reports? You said to me, nobody’s asked those questions and I apologized. I was not at the press conference. I told you so. I’m asking you now. I’ll get on it. You promised. We also discussed the fact that the chief’s statement to the press was in direct contradiction to accounts given by McCree’s neighbors who told numerous media outlets that the police were in fact called or were in the vicinity of the home on more than one occasion, while McCrae was firing his gun in the backyard.

A neighbor living directly behind McCrae has said this, so has the neighbor living across the street. Even McCree’s father told the press he pleaded with the son to get rid of the weapon. While police may not have responded specifically to a shots fire call. Are there any reports from the past two years where officers documented the neighbor’s complaints or McCray’s behavior? There may be a simple explanation to these conflicting narratives, but as you must certainly understand the community, the families, and the students desire clarification. The horrors of mass shootings seem to follow a script. Now. Press conference calls for stricter gun laws, calls for more mental health services than funerals attended by politicians who get none of these things accomplished. A clear airing and thorough understanding of McCray’s interactions with law enforcement may help us arrive at an attainable strategy to provide more effective policing of troubled individuals.

This is particularly important in the Lansing metropolitan area home to the state government and the largest college campus in Michigan. Meanwhile, Lansing proper finds itself tagged with the unwanted sober cat of top 20 most violent cities in America. Madam, I followed up our telephone conversation with the written request. After hearing nothing from you throughout the week, I sent you an official Freedom of Information request. Your response was dismissive and disturbing to say the least, I apologize for the delay you wrote to fill out a foyer request. Click here, madam. That’s not good enough. Pursuant to M MCL 15 2 3 2 Subsection M. A written request for information shall include any writing transmitted by fax, email, or other electronic means. As a result, I am not required to fill out the city’s form and I chant by statute. You have five business days to respond to my email, which is this Friday. Then you are entitled to 10 business days thereafter to fulfill my request in full. Moreover, pursuant to mc L 15, 2 34, subsection two, I ask that any fees or charges be waived as this is a matter of high public interest. Further still, if you believe my request would benefit from an unscripted unrehearsed sit down interview with Chief Osby, I am amenable to that regards. Charlie Lauff

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Translation. Shit, is you crazy? You know this some bullshit. I’m not filling this out and you only got a few days to get back to me and I be damn if I pay for any of it. Deuces

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Speaker 8 (08:13):
So what’s next after that? Charlie

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Is the power back with us. Is Jasmine Barmore reporter for the free press been covering the unbelievably ridiculous power outage that’s infected Michigan like every fucking week? What do you find out Where we at now?

Speaker 9 (08:35):
So according to D T E, they said that they have restored 600,000 of the 630,000 customers impacted by the power outage and that they are still working tire well. They have workers that are still working as we speak, trying to restore the other residents who have been affected.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
So respect to the line workers, everybody knows that. Mm-hmm. What a dangerous job. And we,

Speaker 9 (09:05):
Because it’s raining.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Oh, oh yeah, it’s going to freeze. It

Speaker 9 (09:08):
Is freezing. It’s raining bad right now.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Only it’s it’s fog. It’s it’s freezing rain. They said that it was going to be another ice storm today. So let’s

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Get real here. What’s what, first of all, D T E. Your bullshit, man, you guys, this isn’t you. This isn’t the free press. This isn’t you. This is me. You belong in prison. You do. People are dying. My mother didn’t have power for two days. I didn’t even know it. You know my mom? You everybody know my mom? Yeah. I wrote her a letter last week. She didn’t return my call. And finally two days later, she returned my call. I go she goes, I my power just came back. And I go, mom, why did you call? She said, I don’t know if she’s getting senile or nostalgic, but she’s like, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 8 (09:48):
She was just thug in it out. She

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Likes my mother makes LY soap. You know what I mean? Beef barley stew like her own candles.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
But she’s from a different era too. She thinks

Speaker 3 (09:58):
She’s from little House on the Prairie. She does. She tells stories about her and would her aunt, they would cut up flannel shirts and wiped her ass with them, put ’em in a pot and wash ’em. That was the old days. That poor toilet paper. Okay. She looked at that finally. So since we like a camp out for my mom, but I don’t like it. <laugh> my brother in that power, his grand boy, right? He’s moving him around to different residences to keep ’em warm.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
But Charlie, we’ve seen where I, I’ve seen on Twitter and social media where parents whose children are oxygen dependent or whether they have special needs. People are saying, okay, why should you have to pack up and go to a warming center? Why do you want to stay at a rec center? What if you cannot find or afford a hotel room? What about general?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
That’s the shit they’re doing in the Ukraine. But that’s because Putin’s fucking fire and missiles after. Yeah, electric plants. What’s that fucking reasoning? So same thing. So D T E said 600 as you’re telling me there, of the 630. Well, why is it everybody else was reporting 820,000?

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Well, I mean, I also have seen that the numbers have been being manipulated. So we don’t really know how many residents are really affected by the power outages unless we go door to door and knock and find out. And for D t E, they kind of have to go around the same. Around the same thing. They don’t know until they find out, oh, this one is affected. Or what if you were affected? Someone that text me the other day, they didn’t lose power on Thursday. They lose, they lost their power on Friday. So what if it’s something like that?

Speaker 8 (11:42):
So those variables that they may or may not count, but the platforms of reporting are inconsistent too because dte, their Twitter account said that they were still were 30,000 outstanding. Their media and their outage center reported 60,000, but the outage map indicated 87,000. So

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Even that’s this

Speaker 8 (12:02):
Morning. That’s this morning. And so even on their own platforms, they’re not consistent.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And let me put it to you this way, California at the height, because they got hit with fucking snow in LA at the height of their outage. It was a big national story. 68,000 customers. So we still got 80, wait, let’s see, Wednesday to Thursday, it depends to Friday, Friday to Saturday. Saturday Sundays, that’s fine. Monday

Speaker 8 (12:27):
Days. And what’s going to be the impact of today’s weather? Our thing, thinking about what’s going to happen,

Speaker 9 (12:32):
Today’s coming down outside

Speaker 8 (12:34):

Speaker 3 (12:34):
You pour ladies, very handsome ladies in indeed. Your

Speaker 8 (12:38):
Nails are handsome ladies,

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Your nails are nice, right? What happens if it floods? What are you going to do? Are you going to have to call Mr. Charlie right here? <laugh>. I’ll be there. I got to spare generator, Mr. Charlie, spare Generat. I’ll be there to help.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
Okay. I’m going to remember that. Charlie. Hey

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Brett, did you ever get your FEMA check for your basement flooding out?

Speaker 6 (12:57):
It wasn’t enough.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
So you got a check.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
It didn’t even cover replacing the washer, but did

Speaker 8 (13:04):
You get something from fema?

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Not a fema, unfortunately.

Speaker 8 (13:07):
Or did you have to take out a SBA loan?

Speaker 6 (13:09):
No, no, no. SBA loan. It was a FEMA check. Okay. And then didn’t cover replacing the washer dryer. So we know that didn’t clean up none of that. Nah, they didn’t pay out for none of that. That’s

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Crazy. So Jasmine, what was the profit of our public utility? What was the profit last year?

Speaker 9 (13:29):
Oh, that right there. I was just reading

Speaker 3 (13:32):
That over a billion. It

Speaker 9 (13:34):
Was like, yeah, I think they said it was about 256 million. They gained in profits last year.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Revenue and price? Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
Yeah, it was about two. It was about 200 and it was about 256.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, I’ll tell you this. You keep looking at, and I’ll tell you this. Yeah, let

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Me find it. I don’t like

Speaker 3 (13:58):
To be exact. What’s going on, ladies and gentlemen? And if you listen to this program, any investment that the consumers, let’s not forget them. They’ve got this place divided up and they got 90% of all households. Any investment, they make new infrastructure like gas fired plant. They’re guaranteed a profit. Okay? That’s the deal. You’re not guaranteed a profit when you have to upkeep poles, wires, transformers, couplings et cetera, cutting trees. So when you have to put back into the system, you do not make profit. The CEO of this bitch is making over $10 million and he’s getting paid in stock. So when you beat wall projections, your stock goes up and we sit in the dark.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
But this is a thing, Charlie, and I know people are, they, they’re upset and they talk about, oh, this guy’s making all this money. I get all that. That’s capitalism. I don’t care how much he makes. What I care about is that the service provision is commensurate with the money that I pay for. Ah, yeah. That’s it. Yeah. I don’t care about, I understand that’s an uphill battle in this country. I got it. But at the end of the day, we constantly are charged astronomical rates and receiving substandard service.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I’m trying to connect the dots for you. This is the point. You pay exorbitant rates, the profits are outward, outrageous. I understand. And the reason they’re outrageous understand is because they starve you and overcharge you. Yep.

Speaker 9 (15:36):
The profits for fourth quarter were over a billion. They were 1.8 billion for the fourth. I’m sorry. They were one point. They were a little bit over one point billion for fourth quarter. For the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
For the fourth quarter, over a billion dollars.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
We’re not even out of the first quarter yet.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
What went out the first quarter being the reporting the last quarters over a billion. And you’re going to raise my rates. Yes. Now let me

Speaker 9 (15:57):
Give you some 30. Yeah, go ahead. It was a 30. They were approved to raise the rates by 30.5 million last year by the Michigan Public Service Commission. It

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Now for infrastructure,

Speaker 9 (16:10):
D T E did ask for a little bit more and the service commission came back and said, no, we’ll G, we’ll grant you this.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
That’s the art of negotiation,

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Right? That’s the gate. The I just

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Got finished telling Red,

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Let’s go have a glass of Bordeaux and adult mind. You heard me say, but Dick

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Could tell you that red ask for more than you want and then settle for what it is that you really want. Just

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Talked about de already got it

Speaker 8 (16:32):
Down. Paid. They clearly do. Go ahead, Jasmine. What were you

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Saying? I’ll give you this, Jasmine. Okay. This was from a prior program of ours. The Michigan Public Service Commission, which is supposed to keep an eye on these people, came out with the report, and I quote it, the reliability is inadequate. Plans for improvements are insufficient over a hundred times. In this 80 page report, they used the word insufficient, unreliable, unsafe.

Speaker 8 (16:59):

Speaker 3 (17:00):
It’s not there. We’re not ready for the future. This electric future’s bullshit. There’s a New York Times story right here. We can’t even Biden throwing out 400 billion for new energy projects. But there’s a four year backlog once you build this solar farm to tie it into the grid, into our shit grid here. Four year backlog. So I don’t believe it. I’m going to give you this. Here’s what the consumer pays in Michigan, the average electricity bill for the year is $2,233. $2,233. A laborer in Calcutta, India. <laugh> on average makes $1,932 a year. So why is fucking power better <laugh> in India? Ladies and gentlemen, India has a renowned, renowned terrible grid. <affirmative> bottom 50 in the world. But 34% of all Indian households report no outages for the year. 34% in Michigan, the average resident suffers 15 hours of blackout per year. And that doubled from the prior year from 2021 is 15 hour, 20, 20. It was seven and a half. So it’s not good enough.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
And remember, two, there was just a rate increase that was approved for the hours between three and 7:00 PM which is when kids are coming home from school, people are coming home from work, dinner, maybe work before bed. Those are peak hours. Those are peak hours. And so it’s like

Speaker 9 (18:41):
It doesn’t balance off. And I think what I’ve been hearing from consumers is at this point, dte, what are you going to do to help us?

Speaker 8 (18:54):
But do they feel helpless? Because people are asking, what do we do? And they don’t know what to do.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
Well, and see that that’s what I was having a discussion with about someone. And see, the thing is, is that we also have to realize that the CEO is not necessarily hearing the problems on the community level that we’re having when it comes to these power outages and these outrageous budget plans and the bills that people are on. So we have to also remember that for them to hear us, we have to amplify our voices when they have these public meeting, these meetings monthly with the Michigan the service commissioners, maybe we need to start going.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
That’s one.

Speaker 9 (19:37):
A one. Maybe we need to start going, where’s

Speaker 3 (19:39):
The fucking governor? Okay, the reporter has, was there a, this is five days now, was you’re a reporter, crackerjack, they email you. It’s going to be a press briefing. Did the governor hold a emergency press briefing on, let the public know what’s going on, what they need? Have you been to one of those? Not

Speaker 9 (19:57):
To my knowledge.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Have you heard

Speaker 8 (19:58):
Of any? I haven’t heard. That’s interesting. Charlie. I haven’t heard anything from the governor’s office at all on

Speaker 3 (20:02):
This. Governor, come on.

Speaker 9 (20:06):

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Attorney General put ’em in prison. You <laugh>. I’m sure Jasmine, she tweeted something or there’s a press release from the Attorney General is

Speaker 9 (20:16):
There? Yeah, she is. Oh,

Speaker 3 (20:17):

Speaker 8 (20:18):
Twitter. Yeah,

Speaker 9 (20:19):
Twitter. She’s so, she has called on the Michigan utilities to basically give some type of reimbursements for people that have suffered hours. That’s

Speaker 8 (20:29):
A reaction. That’s That’s not a

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Strand. That’s 25 bucks. We’ve been through this and that. Don’t even cover all the groceries you lost and eggs

Speaker 9 (20:36):
Cost. That’s one the real issues that customers are complaining about. And think food, we all, it’s crazy. Let’s not talk about the price of eggs today. You know, can’t leave your eggs or your milk in a refrigerator that has no power because it’s going to spoil. And people are just kind of getting to a place where it’s like, look, we are already struggling as is to maintain.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
But you know what, regardless, and this is the thing, even if you’re not struggling, everybody deserves to have one. What they pay for. If I go to the grocery store and you can go to the store and spend four or $500 easily, I deserve to be able to take care of those groceries because I have a refrigerator. Because I pay my electric. That’s all I’m asking for. Just do you know, just basic stuff. I don’t want any favors. I don’t want any preferential treatment. I just want what I pay for.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I just want some, look, here’s what you could do. We could all, a million of us could decide to go have lunch on the lawn at DTE, right over here. And nothing that sweats an executive, like a million people having a peaceful lunch on the lawn staring up at you because the governor ain’t going to do shit. Awol Attorney General is just a puppet, just dancing around because we’re going to get to the nursing homes and all of that that you refuse to look into because you don’t really care. And you blew Flint and you don’t really care. And remember during the election, governors fixing the damn roads. Do you remember all the barrels? Red, remember Merry last one of them all them barrels. Man, you had shit that 75, 6 96 interchange. I didn’t know Madison Heights was so nice. I mean, I didn’t know they had ’em all. I’m like, what the fuck am I, oh look, an Applebees. Okay, well the elections over and the barrels are gone. Are the roads fixed?

Speaker 8 (22:23):

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Nope. Is the power fixed?

Speaker 8 (22:26):
The public is getting played at every level. I mean, we are, and I think, like Jasmine said, people are frustrated and they’re disappointed and they’re looking for what is it that we do? Ideally, it would be great if every single person refused to pay their electric bill. That’s how you really get their attention. But they’re in control of the switch. And so are you prepared for the shutoffs? But what do people, how do they amplify their voices, as you

Speaker 9 (22:54):
Said, but we also have to take into con I hear you what you’re saying too about the governor not saying anything to Charlie. But we also have to look at this is these are different times that we’re living in. We had this power outage right on the heels of the U shooting and it’s,

Speaker 8 (23:14):
But this is the first one though. That’s the thing. This isn’t the first.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Wait, wait. Now

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I really wait. All right. Wait, wait. I got to take care of some business. Okay. See if my business partners are listening. Did this thing just bag out again?

Speaker 10 (23:25):
The computer did, because it’s not the best computer. But you still have your clock up

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Here. Did the feed bag out? No feed’s. Doing great. What’s up with the card?

Speaker 10 (23:32):
It sucks. That’s

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Why. So did we lose transmission? No, we’re still good because this thing went beep.

Speaker 10 (23:37):
Yeah, no, no, no. Your clock reset, but you got a clock up here. So DT

Speaker 3 (23:40):

Speaker 8 (23:40):
Missing <laugh>, dt. That’s,

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I was wondering. I was wondering if it was, that’s what I’m saying. Shit.

Speaker 8 (23:47):
Hey, wait, I just said they were control of the switch.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
We need,

Speaker 9 (23:50):
We’re not going to have no power in a minute.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Where’s my clock? Man? You have one up there. Well, no, I ain’t got shit.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
No, it’s on the other side.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
It’s outrageous. I should be working in fucking Lansing. Damn. Okay, so speaking of witch, okay, well what, let’s not get into weeds about, let’s just be real. Somebody said weeds, <laugh>. My bad. You should turn that up, dude, because your voice is so hoarse from all that weed. Like a

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Better, I can’t hear. I don’t have any audio. I

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Didn’t hear. I didn’t add nothing else to do. Why? The power was

Speaker 8 (24:19):
Out. Can you turn me up a little? Yeah, there you go. I can hear now. Thank

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You. Okay, so you know what? The government don’t talk to it. They don’t do anything. If you notice from all that poison dirt from East Palestine, Ohio, they’re putting it on trucks, trucking it across Ohio up here, and they’re going to dump it in Wayne County. Ooh,

Speaker 8 (24:38):
Please don’t. That’s the plan.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
The plan. And nobody was told, I don’t know if governor was told she don’t return Michael, nobody was. No. Debbie Dingle gets out there and cuckoo Caro’s out there and not in my backyard all of a sudden. Who said they could do it? Why weren’t we notified? But if you notice, when our elected representatives stand up, some shit stops. You see? But they don’t. So who made that call? Hey, governor, you so out of touch that they sleepy Joe pulled his right over your eyes because that’s really bad not to know. And if you knew, how could you, but I know what we can do with that. I know we can do at Poison Dirt. What? We can give it to Mike Duggan. He can throw in the demo holes here in Detroit. Ain’t nobody

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Put the rest of it.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah. Where was Kku and Debbie, where is that investigation? That’s poison shit in the ground. Yeah,

Speaker 8 (25:30):
But wasn’t a sexy story. I

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Know, but it’s the people. Yeah, it’s the P, it’s the neighbor. That’s who you keep

Speaker 9 (25:38):
Track of. It’s like Karen said that

Speaker 3 (25:39):
It’s you and

Speaker 9 (25:41):
The people feel like they’re getting played. The people are tired. They are. And they’re tired. And we can complain or the people can complain and complain and complain. But now it’s time to see some action. We have to start having forward conversations, especially about the power and the issues that we’re going to continue seeing since the global warming is not going to slow

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Down. No, no, I disagree. I appreciate it. Time for talking’s Done. Yeah, we, we’ve been doing that because let’s take a look at Ohio. Okay? Train goes off the track again, and I could tell you why I went off the track, because for a year I did a documentary. I was on them railroad cars traveling up and down the coast. But who I did a lot of reading my source would be the Associated Press, which is pretty credible. They’ve been around a couple of centuries. Little bitch, not fake news. This thing goes off the track. It’s got vinyl chloride. It’s not leaking, but one of the five cars is getting hot. Now I call my hazmat guy, super firefighter guy, licensed and trained by wait for it. Pete Buttigieg, United States Department of Transportation. That’s who certifies train wreck response. This is part of your wheelhouse.

They got water on the hot car, right? They got water on it. That’s what you do. You cool it off. They told ’em to take the hoses off. That’s what the local fire chief said. They told us back off. Remember they had to let it out because they were afraid it was going to explode and mm-hmm. Send shrapnel a mile away. Do you know how they cracked open the cars? How they put explosive devices on it? According to the Associated Press. Now that’s asinine. Well, that’s backwards. That doesn’t make any sense. So they, it’s going to blow everything up. So they crack ’em. They let the vinyl chloride go into a ditch. Now you got to clean it up. So they do, they decide to light on fire. Now, this was just a Google. And so Biden did know, because the governor of Pennsylvania said he was in touch with him.

So Washington knew Harrisburg, knew Columbus knew, right? All the different governmental entities. EPA knew Department of Transportation. So you lit on fire. You know what you get when you light vinyl chloride on fire. What’d you get, Charlie? It’s called Fagen. That’s the gas. You know how Fagen is popular? You can Google this in World War I, when they were gassing each other. Mm-hmm. 85% of all the troops in World War I, the war to end All Wars died from Fagen. So, wow. So what happened in Ohio was a war crime. It was a fucking war crime that’s illegal to gas people with fostering by the Geneva Convention. And yet somebody thought this was okay, and here we sit,

Speaker 6 (28:40):
And this was a train company. So just imagine if this was somebody on a higher level. This is just a train company did what they wanted.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
And you know what? The Republican governor of Ohio knew it. The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania do it. The epa, a bunch of stinking bureaucrats knew it. The Department of Transportation knew it. Buttigieg finally goes down there and does this objection.

Speaker 11 (29:07):
Yeah, you mentioned a national political figure. He’s decided to get involved. It sounds like you’re talking about Trump. And then you said, I need your help. How can he help?

Speaker 12 (29:16):
Well, one thing he could do is express support for reversing the deregulation that happened on his watch. I heard him say he had nothing to do with it, even though it was in his administration. So if he had nothing to do with it and they did it in his administration against his will maybe he could come out and say that he supports us moving in a different direction. We’re not afraid to own our policies when it comes to raising the bar on regulation. And I’ve got to think that him indicating that this is something that everybody, no matter how much you disagree on politics and presidential campaigns, can get behind higher fines, tougher regulations on safety, Congress, unti, untying, our hands on breaking rules, all the other things that go with that.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Pete. Pete, why don’t you get it done? You’ve been there for two years. Now here’s the thing about that Trump and the braking system, the breaking system only goes on long trains that have more than 20 volatile wagons on it. Right? This would not have qualified for such a designation, Pete. This is why cars go off the tracks. Those railroad ties, the pieces of wood that the rails are nailed to states.

Mostly the spikes come out and the rails pop off. That’s what causes most of it. It’s the infrastructure. The other reason is, and I noticed from riding the box cars, is the wheels don’t stay round. When you break the, they’ll get a flat spot in them. And when you get a flat spot, they start going like this. Bam, ba bam, ba bam, ba bam, ba bam, ba bam. And we’re all from Michigan, so we know what happens when your rear end goes bam, ba bam, ba bam, break the road. The bearings in your wheel hub. Your wheel bearings start to smoke and it seize, right? That’s what you heard from the neighbors, the videotape. The wheels were smoking. So the railroad isn’t maintaining. You’re supposed to grind those things back into a circle, costs a lot of fucking money. And so they just going to dump shit and burn it and then dump it up here.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
So all of this is just negligence at every level. Fucking right? I mean, that’s what we’re talking about. We’re talking about negligence of a infrastructure from D T E. We’re talking about negligence of a infrastructure at the transportation. We’re talking just overall negligence,

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Smart people

Speaker 9 (31:44):
And who have to suffer from that negligence. And then, okay, so when I said we need to have conversations, I don’t mean just them having conversations. The community needs to start rallying together and having conversations with full transparency so that they can understand. The people up here can understand what the people down here, however they want to see how it’s supposed to go is how what’s happening for real and how we’re being affected. I don’t think they care because what care

Speaker 3 (32:14):
You mean you don’t mean this? I don’t think they care, you mean? No, I think they do. But you

Speaker 9 (32:17):
Mean, well, they don’t care if every Detroit resident was to move out of the city. Well,

Speaker 3 (32:21):
No. They don’t care enough to do shit. Someone turn off the porno, turn off the nfl. Right? Turn off Twitter in your Xbox. Just do what Jasmine’s doing. Just look at how much a dude made. Yeah, that’s true. Find out when the next meeting is

Speaker 8 (32:35):
And go and let

Speaker 3 (32:36):
’em have it and

Speaker 9 (32:36):
Go. I had someone text me the other day and they, they’re so frustrated with the power and I’m like, I can’t do anything, but I can help amplify these silent voices. She said, I’m too old to be dealing with this in a minute. I’m going to pack my bags up out and leave Michigan. We don’t want people to leave Michigan because we need their dollars to help.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
Well, but everybody can’t do that either. A lot of people, not everybody, not everybody’s states. Some people are stuck. And those people that are stuck are entitled to what? What’s basically services and what they pay for.

Speaker 9 (33:12):
My point is we don’t want that to happen. We

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Got a bigger problem, I think, which is the division here. So if you just see what some people are tweeted, social media, that’s what we do. Now, some guy did this on Twitter. I’m looking at that, looking for Pete’s. I don’t have cable, so I’m looking for Pete’s stop off in East Palestine War, crime Central. And some guy’s like you tell a Pete like, all right, you want to know about Trump? Yeah, Amtrak went off the train, the breaking system. People died. He didn’t show up. That’s right. Tweet that. He’s out. We got rid of him. He’s out now. We got the new guy. Hey Pete, this guy says, you give it to a Pete. You really tell that, or Cheeto motherfucker. And I’m thinking, dude, you’re letting him off picking sides and not our side. So that dude, whoever tweeted that, he should be penalized five years, no vote for excessive fanboy <laugh> like you’re out

Speaker 8 (34:12):

Speaker 3 (34:14):
There’s no excuse.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
But it is Charlie. And that’s what happens too. Everybody’s looking for a side to pick and to choose. There

Speaker 9 (34:20):
Are no more sides now. There shouldn’t be. We need to work together. We can’t move forward and have growth in our, first of all, it’s not just about me or we got babies that are coming up behind us

Speaker 8 (34:36):
And senior citizens, like

Speaker 9 (34:37):
Ladies and senior citizens we talked about. Now my concern goes to the mother who just brought her child home from the hospital and had to sit without power.

Speaker 3 (34:45):

Speaker 9 (34:46):
Yep. It’s not just about us anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So let’s do this. What? Look at this division. Here’s a bunch of worn out, rundown, broke ass white people in rural Ohio, and there’s a bunch of rundown wore out black people here in southern Michigan, and you poison them, and then you’re going to bring that shit over here to us. What’s with the division? We got all this shit in common that they’re doing to us. This is our people. Like they’re being played. That’s true. And you got to wake yourself up Fagen. It’s illegal. Mark. Okay, so where’s the epa? Let me give you another one. The EPA knew this. They knew they were going to light it on fire. They’re the ones going in there telling you, Hey, the air’s fine. Right? They bring in the university Texas a and m. It’s not fine. Right? The epa, huh? Where are they? They must be in Flint, didn’t they? Wasn’t they telling us? Yep. Oh, that water was good. Then we had to bring in the university and it wasn’t bureaucrats. Here’s what I would like to see. Governor and governor and governor and Pete and president. I want some asses fired. I want the Governor Ohio to go. I trusted these fuckers to Google. What happens when you light off a vinyl chloride and I find out it’s a World War I death machine.

Speaker 8 (36:14):
Aren’t these engineers? Aren’t these hazmats?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
You’re fired. You’re fired.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
Accountability is a big part of a lot of this.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
The biggest employer in the world is the United States Federal government. And we got so many layers of this and y’all sitting around on your ass collecting a check. Same with the demolition. I want that. I’m not giving up on that. If the governor came out and goes, these dip shits handed me this, it’s my fault. I signed it. I signed off on it. I told you to move because it was going to be deadly. That’s why he doesn’t have anything to say. Because I read what he, I watched his press conference move. It’s deadly. That’s what Mike Dew wine Republican governor of Ohio told the people steadily. We don’t know what’ll happen. You let ’em do that.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
But Charlie able, or how are they able to decide to pick this stuff up and bring it to Michigan? Thank you. Somebody somewhere had to know you just, I mean, illegal dumping, whether it’s tires or trash, is illegal. So how do you pick up a whole

Speaker 9 (37:19):
Thing? They just decide, I’m going to bring it to a

Speaker 8 (37:21):
Different state dump. Just dump it like somebody. And even

Speaker 9 (37:23):
If no one knew, now we do know.

Speaker 8 (37:25):
Okay, but somebody hat

Speaker 3 (37:26):
To that hold that. That’s go. Okay. So I just wrote a note here for the reporter. It says, find out.

Speaker 9 (37:34):
I knew I was under an assignment while I was here. We

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Would like to know Governor, did you know? Okay. And yeah, in the end, this is where it’s going. It’s got to go somewhere.

Speaker 8 (37:44):

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Is a book stop. It should go to the state capitol in Ohio.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
I just want to say this though. I mean, it is important to find out who know, but I think the bigger point is, is that we already know. These people know and don’t give a damn. They already know we got

Speaker 8 (37:58):
It, but they’re allowed to not care anymore red. And I think, again, like Jasmine said, people are looking for something to do. Is that first thing going to that meeting is that first thing flooding Dana Nestle’s office? I mean, putting that pressure on them because they respond to public scrutiny. They do. And so I can’t help but to think that you’d have a heightened level of scrutiny, but then you got to stick with it. Right? We can’t say something one day and then let it trail off the media coverage of the Michigan State’s duty. It just kind of goes away. Thank

Speaker 3 (38:28):
You. Michigan. You see the theme? Because we try to give a good program here. There is a theme here to the incompetence of the people that we in charge hire to keep track of our welfare makes me feel like we being ran by boobs and new income poops. What a terrible generation we are. We just collect a check. We are, and I’ll be gone. But Charles, by the time them babies come up,

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Listen, I tweeted today, pay attention

Speaker 3 (38:56):
To the po. Let

Speaker 8 (38:56):
Me check to the posi to opinions of people,

Speaker 3 (39:01):
How many hits you

Speaker 8 (39:01):
Get? Because I don’t know. I didn’t listen. I

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Didn’t love hope. It’s viral.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
Listen. But it’s not. But I was just saying that when people are giving you explanations or definitions or updates, those paychecks are driving what that person is saying. Jasmine, we talked about that the other day when somebody from DTE was saying, oh, but no, we do all this stuff. But that’s a subjective opinion. When that person is paid by that company, would their opinion be the same if they

Speaker 9 (39:29):
Got let go the next day if

Speaker 8 (39:30):
They were not an employee of that company? That speaks volumes.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah. Oh, let me give, I forgot. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry about

Speaker 9 (39:37):
That. Instead of us, instead of us using the incentive of our paycheck, which don’t get me wrong, I need my paycheck, Detroit Free Press. So instead of us using the incentive of our paychecks to further a narrative that is not conducive for the majority, why don’t we use the incentive of our paychecks to start speaking up so that we can help change this? So think

Speaker 8 (40:02):
You’re saying, because they got, you know why too many instances, they use those people that they pay to protect and cover up what they’re doing and what they’re not

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Doing. Okay, that’s That’s very nice. That’s good we got that. It’s important to say here that the free press is now offering a special award. You, it’s a dollar a month for a year. Is that correct? <laugh> at the

Speaker 8 (40:22):
Detroit News. Charlie, we right for

Speaker 3 (40:24):
The news. I was going to get there, right? A dollar a month for a year. Is that correct? Yes, it is. Yeah. We were the news. Just

Speaker 9 (40:29):
What you just said, dollar a month. And look at what we’re doing. We’re coming together to, yeah, publications are coming together in a sense. And we’re uplifting these concerns because people

Speaker 8 (40:37):
Deserve have,

Speaker 9 (40:38):
We’re using our

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Patients. I’m doing, I’m giving facts.

Speaker 8 (40:41):
Yeah. That is a dog. Here’s

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Another fact, <laugh>, that 35,000 tons of Fagen was manufactured during World War I. Mm. And Ohio. They ripped off about 600 tons of Fagen, meaning that’s about 2% just in one little town. In one day, 2% of the total of World War I. That’s what they did. So this soil kind of up here is fucked up.

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Speaker 3 (42:32):
Already Did they pressure you to No. No. They told you you’re in a good place.

Speaker 8 (42:36):
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Speaker 8 (43:49):
They get federal dollars

Speaker 3 (43:50):
That Michigan violate the covid. 19 vaccination mandates more than any other state for these nursing homes. In fact, 10% of all nursing homes cited in the United States are here in Michigan. And 15% of the hospitals across the entire United States are here in Michigan. So what does that mean? That means your staff didn’t get vaccinated when they were supposed to, or if they didn’t get vaccinated, they didn’t have an excuse or a doctor’s note, and you didn’t give ’em masks and equipment and they were walking around infecting OP people and

Speaker 8 (44:23):

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Exact. So they just hit us. You knew Governor and Madame Attorney Jail. You knew because I told you because it’s was all over the co. I told you we had porters on, remember him, Kevin? We had doctors on, we had nurses on, we had engineer. This is an outrage because I agreed with, and you’re not going to like me, some of you out there because I know your heart’s broken, that you couldn’t go into the nursing home because we didn’t know what to do. We wanted to keep ’em safe. So we were the last ones to require testing of our staff. We were the last ones to give ’em equipment, obviously, even when we had it, they weren’t doing it. Nobody was looking. And what does Madame Nessel say? She goes to cam the lobbying wing for the nursing homes and says, I think it’s outrageous. They said, you did a badge job. I think you did great.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
The paycheck docket,

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think to the keynote speaker at the breakfast, this is a crime.

Speaker 8 (45:33):
That’s the paycheck talking.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
That’s a crime. 66. Nursing homes didn’t follow the protocol. They didn’t inspect them during covid.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
They didn’t inspect them prior to Covid. They

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Didn’t count the dead. And we all just went along.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
And the level of cross-contamination is always the thing that I think about from the people that we talked to. People that they knew that were sick, were compromised, and they had no problem intermingling or not separating them.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Facts. Studies. I mean, I do remember reports. Reports, no reports like Wall Street Reports, center for Medicaid and Medicaid services. You know what I mean? The epa, <affirmative>. These are facts. We’re not just bullshitting over here, but what we’re doing is like, what do we do? You guys just stumped it with the big que. What do we do? I don’t

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Know. Because that’s what everybody wants to know.

Speaker 9 (46:27):
That’s That’s the question that that’s the what do we do? What do we

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Do? I know what you do. Share shares hair. Give us a subscribe. You can find us on YouTube.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
But I do agree, whether it’s the meeting, whether it’s calling somebody, whether it’s saying something, but it also has to be a cohesive effort. It can’t be the division that you talked about. It can’t be the us versus them. It’s got to be alright. Maybe for me, maybe it didn’t impact me because I had a generator, but I’m still concerned about the impact that it has on other people. I mean, because I care about, I care.

Speaker 9 (47:03):
I just luckily didn’t lose my power this time. And so I didn’t, not in that equation, but I know a lot of people that have, and it’s

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Unfortunate. You know what? That’s funny. I’m pissed. I didn’t lose my power. Always. The guy that loses his power and I want went and bought a big fucking generator. I’m a dude. I like my tools. I got it already in the garage. Come on the pot. Pot didn’t go out. That’s why I called my mom. I got a big generator and she didn’t call me. She didn’t want it.

Speaker 8 (47:33):
Yeah, but that’s the thing though. You know

Speaker 9 (47:35):
What? But can people even afford generators though,

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Right? Well,

Speaker 9 (47:38):
That was another conversation.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
But you got but two kinds. You have portable generators, which a lot of people use incorrectly. And it compromises. Do not

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Put ’em in your basement.

Speaker 8 (47:47):
Don’t put ’em in your basement. They catch fire. Or you get carbon monoxide, all that. And you have the permanent ones, which are expensive. So again, but people shouldn’t have to do that,

Speaker 9 (47:59):
But people, so another thing,

Speaker 8 (48:01):
We don’t live in the third world

Speaker 9 (48:02):
Country. Someone told me that people should invest in generators, right? If they can,

Speaker 8 (48:06):

Speaker 9 (48:06):
Would. Yeah, that right there. If they can’t, because the average American doesn’t have an emergency savings account. That’s true. So

Speaker 3 (48:12):
That’s true. So if you do,

Speaker 9 (48:14):
When you lose power in the middle of the week, where are you going to get? The generators are, here’s

Speaker 3 (48:19):
What you do. Tell me about it. You got to re by that house.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
No, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Okay. Consolidate the credit card debt. Get a lower note. Take the $500. Now you have

Speaker 9 (48:31):
Cash out some of your four oh one.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
If you call hall, you can get this done. And then you go see Luke and he’ll take care of your little nest. This is actually solutions,

Speaker 8 (48:40):
But after a while, you get to, I remember it was maybe a couple summers ago, the power was out for Noah appeal. Reason you

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Ladies keep wanting to do the power. We the power back

Speaker 8 (48:48):
Up. Okay. We don’t want to talk about the power. No,

Speaker 3 (48:50):
No, we do. But we we’re doing covid in the nursing. Okay.

Speaker 9 (48:52):
Oh, we’re back. Okay. All right. Okay. No,

Speaker 8 (48:54):
We What about the power in the nursing

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Home? So here’s another one. Write this down.

Speaker 9 (48:57):
Have they, oh, they probably have generators.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Write this down. Reporter. Here’s another one. Okay,

Speaker 9 (49:00):
I got another

Speaker 3 (49:01):
One. How many billions did Washington send us for Covid? Right? Lot. Like 12 billion. 13 billion, right? All that billions

Speaker 9 (49:09):
We’re looking, but it was delayed.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Okay? It’s delayed. Significantly. Significantly. Right there. You can take that to the bank. That’s the free press right there. That’s a Pulitzer in the works right there. Significantly delayed. How much of this went to new HVAC heating and cooling systems? Zero pressure on top of nursing homes. So when you breathe and it’s not circulating around the nursing home, that’d be like a million dollars. A nursing home. That’s 450 million dropping that buck. How many got it?

Speaker 9 (49:40):

Speaker 3 (49:40):
A good question. I don’t think any, but

Speaker 8 (49:42):
Good. Check your note while you’re calling.

Speaker 3 (49:44):

Speaker 8 (49:44):

Speaker 3 (49:45):
While you’re calling the governor. Right?

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Well, I just want to bring this up. For those that forgot. During the pandemic, we had nurses assisting on the show.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
We had had chief nurses, dude,

Speaker 6 (49:57):
That were telling us, Hey, they putting curtains up. The ward is split by a curtain. They’re not saying,

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Remember I went into the nursing. I went one of these facilities

Speaker 8 (50:08):
And you went with the guy who was picking up the bodies. Remember that? I remember that

Speaker 3 (50:11):
New. We went into one of the,

Speaker 9 (50:13):
I had friends at the time that were working in the facilities. And before I became a journalist, I worked in the hospital. So I know what protective gear looks like. And they were not properly protected. Yeah, I, I was like, what kind of mask are you wearing? I had to wear an N 95 when someone had a respiratory infection or something like that to enter a room. They were wearing surgical mask. Yeah. I mean, not surgical. They were wearing the

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Blue. They said that we couldn’t find them. Well, how come I could find him and I’m delivering ’em to the jails and I’m delivering ’em to the nurse. Why could I find him? And the excuse was, we can’t find it because it was bullshit. And I’ll tell you what else is bullshit. This is interesting. This is Covid News. This is divisiveness. This is buying into your political tribe. Watch. Here’s what cracked yesterday. Wall Street Journal and then the New York Times that the United States Energy Department, which oversees a bunch of biological laboratory. So it’s important, now believes, and these are according to sources inside. This is top seat. We don’t know who said it. People, the reporters from the Times in the journal. You know how it goes. Okay? They both verified it. The energy department now believes that Covid most likely came from the lab in Wuhan.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
Oh yeah. I just read about

Speaker 3 (51:33):
That. As does the F B I. Okay. I don’t know if you can take this to the Bank. Times said they had low certainty. Low certainty means we have certainty. It’s low. Don’t take it to the

Speaker 9 (51:47):
Bank. Yeah. They’re not confirming it

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Deals. Let’s, right. Let’s not cause more

Speaker 9 (51:50):
War theory. They’re putting it out there, but they’re not confirming it.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Right. FBIs also come out with that. There are four other agencies that believe it. The Farmer’s Market Bat theory

Speaker 9 (52:00):
And Covid came from somewhere

Speaker 3 (52:02):
And well, yeah. And two are uncertain. The point being us Farm of Energy. You no joke, FBIs, no joke. I don’t know who these four other agencies are, but I’m, I’m sure they’re no joke. The point being, it was unfair and it was ridiculous. If we look back, that rational thinkers, me, you, John Stewart. Oh, oh, there’s a virus that came from Wuhan. And there’s a building that says Wuhan Institute of Virology could be something there. So why was everybody called a K or a conspiracy theorist when it was a rational thought?

Speaker 8 (52:47):
But that’s what happens when people say something that, and if they have a different perspective or opinion that that’s we here, politically, scientifically, economically. If somebody says something that they disagree with, then they’re a nut. Or it’s fake news, or they’re conspiracy theorist. I mean, that’s just the us versus them. It’s just another level

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Of it. What’s happening. And so that you, you’re, you’re already doing your part. Jasmine, what do we do? I know what you’re doing. You decided to conduct your life in a way where you’re going to make people aware of things. I don’t know what more you could do. That’s got to be enough. It’s going to drive you to drink <laugh>. Trust me, I been there and I’m sober now.

Speaker 8 (53:28):

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I got my chip yesterday.

Speaker 9 (53:31):
I think it just comes down to I

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Got my 12 hour chip. Hey, it’s a start. <laugh>,

Speaker 9 (53:38):
What you say, it comes down to having more conversations like this. It comes down to actually not caring, actually caring about the work that you’re doing and using your platform to benefit the communities that you serve. Without my community, without serving my community, I wouldn’t have a job. So I don’t know what more else. And

Speaker 8 (54:05):
Every elected official ought to feel that same way. Because without the community, they wouldn’t have a job. And it is public service, not self-service. And that line has also been blurred.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And let’s put this where it’s at. Let’s get back to the Wuhan and all that here. If you really want to know the answer, it doesn’t matter where you’re at on that. I’d never seen a disease be so politicized like this one. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the Chinese. This is, and there’s a quote out of the New York Times. We may never get to the answer because the Chinese government won’t allow more testing. How outrageous are they? We all want to know the answer that that leads me as a reporter. Just like Lansing leads me as report. Why won’t you tell me? Why wouldn’t you let us in? Why are you human family? Okay. That’s it for today. I want to remind you, March 18th at the ammo showroom. An evening with white boy Rick. And I’m asking the questions, have you got your ticket yet? No. Yeah, you go to ammo or Ticketmaster. There’s a few left. It’s going to be awesome. White boy Rick Unfiltered. We’ll see Baby.

Speaker 8 (55:12):
Perhaps, perhaps.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Maybe he get so mad at me and beat me up. <laugh>, he’s a big dude. He’s a big dude. He’s

Speaker 8 (55:17):
Too old to fight you, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I’m going to fucking get 33 in the can. He knows how to fight <laugh>. That guy cares his shark and toothbrush in his boot. He know he does.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
He’s going to shake you

Speaker 3 (55:27):
<laugh>. All right. It’s good to see You’all. Thanks for having me. Yeah, that’s Jasmine Barmore from the Detroit Free Press. That’s Karen Douma from Detroit News. And no bullshit News Hour. I’m going to be in New York on Thursday with my bff. Oh, that is, don’t you,

Speaker 13 (55:51):

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Cuomo. That’s right. Got some cocktails. Nope, I’m sober. Hey, Tucker, you here? I got a new BFF.


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